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DOJ probe expands beyond Boeing 737 MAX, includes 787 Dreamliner
The Seattle Times ^ | 6/28/2019 | Steve Miletich

Posted on 07/01/2019 7:57:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

Federal prosecutors have subpoenaed records from Boeing relating to the production of the 787 Dreamliner in South Carolina, where there have been allegations of shoddy work, according to two sources familiar with the investigation.

The subpoena was issued by the Department of Justice (DOJ), the sources said. DOJ is also conducting a criminal investigation into the certification and design of the 737 MAX after two deadly crashes of that jetliner.

The 787 subpoena significantly widens the scope of the DOJ’s scrutiny of safety issues at Boeing.

The two sources who revealed the subpoena spoke on condition of anonymity because of the confidential nature of the inquiries.

A third source said a handful of subpoenas were issued in early June to individual employees at Boeing’s 787 Dreamliner production plant in North Charleston, South Carolina.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 737; 737max; 787; 787dreamliner; aerospace; boeing; boeing737; boeing737max; boeing787; doj; dreamliner; max
More troubles for Boeing beyond the 737 MAX's MCAS fiasco.

There have been earlier reports about shoddy quality from the South Carolina 787 assembly line, but the DOJ is investigating it as a criminal activity?

Boeing also has had quality problems with the KC-46 tanker being built for the U.S. Air Force, including metal shavings left in enclosed bulkheads.

Seems that the Chicago Way has rubbed off on Boeing management after moving headquarters to the Windy City.

1 posted on 07/01/2019 7:57:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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Reports of quality problems are almost always Union Thugs.
Boeing is one of the most highly Unionized private companies NOT involved in Auto Manufacturing.

The Union was apposed to moving to SC.


2 posted on 07/01/2019 8:01:28 AM PDT by Zathras
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I cannot understand why some people who used to work on the assembly lines for (old) Detroit cars in the 80s would leave bottle caps and such inside car panels. That always appeared wrong (and wrong in a very weird/highly absurd manner).

Which means you may understand my puzzlement at a human being leaving metal shavings in the enclosed bulkheads of planes. Why? What pleasure does that give a person? If they can leave shavings there, what else may they be doing to more critical parts of an aircraft?

3 posted on 07/01/2019 8:03:21 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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Reports of shoddy work in North Carolina plant? The one with no union slugs?

What a coinki-dink.


4 posted on 07/01/2019 8:07:54 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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“Seems that the Chicago Way has rubbed off on Boeing management after moving headquarters to the Windy City.”

A management team that in their lack of wisdom saw fit to relocate to Chicago...of all unChristly places...has no business being in ANY kind of business much less the incredibly technical life or death aircraft manufacture.


5 posted on 07/01/2019 8:13:22 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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What earlier reports were there with turned out to be valid? If none then releasing info like this is or should be crimnal. It is akin to a rape accusation which if turns out to be false leaves a stain on the accused.


6 posted on 07/01/2019 8:23:56 AM PDT by billyboy15
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Outsourced software at $9 / hr. They got what they paid for. Now they got caught and have to pay full price. Not really ‘news’, is it?


7 posted on 07/01/2019 8:26:35 AM PDT by RideForever
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And if it’s unions at fault and I agree then it’s the community organizer leading the way. Never underestimate Obungo’s vengeance and deceit.


8 posted on 07/01/2019 8:28:18 AM PDT by Track9
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To: RideForever

Doesn’t seem to be related to software in any way. This appears to be manufacturing processes.

However, like most, I think it is equally as likely (or even more so) that union thugs are behind this, expecially if it is the South Carolina plant.

There was much wailing from the union about this plant, IIRC.


9 posted on 07/01/2019 8:47:47 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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Greedy unpatriotic globalist CEO managers looking for bigger multi-million dollar bonuses are the root cause of the software issues behind the crashes. Yep some union issues may contribute but they do not call the shots on productivity nor on outsourcing.

When things like this occur they need to claw back CEO compensation. The buck always stops at the top.


10 posted on 07/01/2019 9:03:53 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Without freedom of speech we have no democracy and will lose all our freedoms.)
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To: billyboy15
What earlier reports were there with turned out to be valid?

If you are able, read the entire New York Times article: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/20/business/boeing-dreamliner-production-problems.html

If you cannot, here is an excerpt:

Safety lapses at the North Charleston plant have drawn the scrutiny of airlines and regulators. Qatar Airways stopped accepting planes from the factory after manufacturing mishaps damaged jets and delayed deliveries. Workers have filed nearly a dozen whistle-blower claims and safety complaints with federal regulators, describing issues like defective manufacturing, debris left on planes and pressure to not report violations. Others have sued Boeing, saying they were retaliated against for flagging manufacturing mistakes.

Here's a Business Insider summary of the NYT article, which should hit most of the highlights: https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing-787-dreamliner-south-carolina-factory-production-problems-2019-4

11 posted on 07/01/2019 9:11:21 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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If pressure was applied and this along with verified defects being overlooked is proved then all involved need to be mailed and for a long time.


12 posted on 07/01/2019 9:17:32 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: RideForever
"They got what they paid for.
Now they got caught and have to pay full price."

The ones who really paid the full price were
those folks killed in the crashes of the 737s.

13 posted on 07/01/2019 9:51:25 AM PDT by StormEye
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