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The Notre Dame fire: Conclusions enforced before the evidence was examined
American Thinker ^ | 04/29/2019 | John Dietrich

Posted on 04/29/2019 7:39:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The recent fire in Notre Dame Cathedral has highlighted the attempts of the powerful to control the news.

The Paris prosecutor, Rémy Heitz, has decided the fire was "likely accident, not arson."  When reporting his decision, it is easy to eliminate the word "likely" for the sake of brevity.  (Please excuse the sarcasm.)  Luke Baker, Reuters's Paris bureau chief, tweeted, "Fire at Paris' Notre Dame cathedral was started by accident and is related to ongoing work, according to France 2, citing police."  There it is: the orthodox truth.  If you don't accept the "orthodox" story, you are a "conspiracy theorist," an Islamophobe, and a racist.


Deviance from the orthodox view must be silenced.  Fox News's Shepard Smith invited the French media analyst Philippe Karsenty for an eyewitness interview while the fire was still raging.  Karsenty said, "Of course you will hear the political correctness, that it's probably an accident, but..."  Before he could finish, Smith interrupted: "Sir, sir, sir, we're not going to speculate here of the cause of something that we don't know."  Karsenty continued: "I'm just telling you, you need to be ready..."  Smith cut him off: "No, sir.  We're not doing that here.  Not now.  Not on my watch!  Philippe Karsenty, it's very good of you to be here."

Fox's Neil Cavuto had a similar experience in his interview with William Donohue, president of the Catholic League.  Donohue was skeptical about the accident claim.  He commented, "Forgive me for being suspicious.  Just last month, a 17th-century church was set on fire in Paris.  We've seen tabernacles knocked down, crosses have been torn down, statues."  Cavuto responded, "We don't know that.  

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fire; france; koranimals; notredame; paris

1 posted on 04/29/2019 7:39:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The pre-investigation veto was issued while the building was still in flames:

Thou Shalt Not Accuse a Muslim


2 posted on 04/29/2019 7:42:26 AM PDT by samtheman (To steal an election, who do you collude with? Russians in Russia or Mexicans in California?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate to sound absurd, but, why the need to say anything, until they send the investigators in there, and they have done their jobs? Why say anything until we have the results of the professionals review of the fire?

We can all hope and pray that it wasn’t arson, and not committed by any particular groups, but we just won’t know until the investigation happens.


3 posted on 04/29/2019 7:44:43 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: samtheman

Last I heard, they had not been able to inspect the building for arson or accident. The good thing is, we do not expect the truth from the Pravda news.


4 posted on 04/29/2019 7:45:34 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

RE: I hate to sound absurd, but, why the need to say anything, until they send the investigators in there,

Precisely. The fact however, is that they DID say that it was NOT Arson almost immediately after the fire.


5 posted on 04/29/2019 7:46:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

No one must be allowed to think that muzzies did it! That thought is forbidden. We do not know if muzzies did it. So far, there is nothing to indicate that muzzies did it. I don’t believe they’re hiding anything from us.

BUT - IF they knew that muzzies had done it, you can bet your next glass of Courvoisier that there would be an iron-clad impenetrable shield clamped around it and that all discussion would be severely repressed.

The icon of Paris. A symbol of Christianity. A work of art. No one must be allowed to even suspect that it was done by muzzies for that would prove that muzzies hate us and everything that we are and are acting to eliminate us and our way of life and to replace it with their religion of merde.


6 posted on 04/29/2019 7:49:23 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The most enlightening video I have seen (certainly not from American media) was a French interview done with Notre Dame’s former chief architect.
He confirmed several interest points.

- Notre Dame had recently installed a new fire-detection system
- Giant oak timbers don’t burn with merely a spark
- there were two full time security staff whose job was simply to monitor fire alarms. The building was never “unoccupied.”
- there was no machinery or electrical equipment in the area where the fire allegedly started.

Be sure to turn on closed captions to get English subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5QO5dP_NSk


7 posted on 04/29/2019 7:55:30 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Exactly the same way the FBI does business.


8 posted on 04/29/2019 7:57:07 AM PDT by chris37 (Monday, March 25 2019 is Maga Day!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope that the investigators are allowed to do their jobs, learn and reveal the truth, and prosecute if appropriate.

Notre Dame!


9 posted on 04/29/2019 8:06:11 AM PDT by karnage
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To: SeekAndFind

And tower 7 was an accident, too...


10 posted on 04/29/2019 8:08:15 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: PGR88

Thank you for posting that link.

This guy at least has knowledge of Notre Dame.


11 posted on 04/29/2019 8:08:36 AM PDT by karnage
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To: SeekAndFind
If you don't accept the "orthodox" story, you are a "conspiracy theorist," an Islamophobe, and a racist.

Nice to be in good company.

12 posted on 04/29/2019 8:10:26 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: I want the USA back

“The icon of Paris. A symbol of Christianity. A work of art. No one must be allowed to even suspect that it was done by muzzies for that would prove that muzzies hate us and everything that we are and are acting to eliminate us and our way of life and to replace it with their religion of merde”.

It’s a good thing the structure is big!


13 posted on 04/29/2019 8:10:48 AM PDT by Does so (Is Central America Emptying Its Jails?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like they know it was arson, and that it was a muzzy.
This, obfuscate and occlude the evidence via preconclusion.


14 posted on 04/29/2019 8:27:21 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Will the professionals be ALLOWED to report it being anything but an accident?


15 posted on 04/29/2019 8:28:09 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“I hate to sound absurd, but, why the need to say anything, until they send the investigators in there, and they have done their jobs? Why say anything until we have the results of the professionals review of the fire?”

Dilbert San Diego, Shep, and Neil. All in line, aren’t you?

The reason it would be good to say something is to give other churches a heads up that they are under threat, and to give them a chance to defend themselves from the moslums, and you.


16 posted on 04/29/2019 8:29:52 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: SeekAndFind
I love the phrase they keep using all round: “Not the preferred theory.”

Feeling for this architect who thought he had done everything possible including state of the art fire detection and 24/7 monitoring. Says 800 year old oak does not burn this fast. He keeps saying he is baffled and distressed. But his is “not the preferred theory,” and he cannot speculate. Yeah, ok, our international thought police are making sure we know the “preferred theory.”

17 posted on 04/29/2019 10:30:02 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Missouri gal
It was posted in a article posted here that this same architect said the fire started in TWO places, he was then “Hushed”
18 posted on 04/29/2019 11:37:54 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and evet n the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

We can all hope and pray that it wasn’t arson, and not committed by any particular groups, but we just won’t know until the investigation happens.
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First, we need to know how impartial and competent the investigators are, and who is reviewing their work.


19 posted on 04/29/2019 12:08:15 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/france-notre-dame-green-scli-intl/index.html


20 posted on 05/19/2019 3:36:24 PM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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