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Some French lefties say Notre Dame rebuild shouldn't be 'overburdened' with Christian meaning
American Thinker ^ | 04/18/2019 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/18/2019 7:11:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It's hard to tell sometimes if liberals are saying something because they really mean it or whether they're just trolling the right, trying to get a rise out.

I say this because it's hard to imagine anyone being serious about rebuilding Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris and not wanting to recreate its sacred past.

But the discussion is already underway to rebuild the structure along more secular, "modern" lines.

Rolling Stone:

Over the course of the past few centuries, the cathedral has played a role in major historical events, from the coronation of kings to the crowning of Napoleon to the requiem mass of President Charles de Gaulle.  And Notre Dame has served as a symbol of not just French historical identity, but Catholicism in general.  "It has a double meaning," says Jean-Robert Armogathe, a French Catholic priest and historian who served as the chaplain at Notre Dame from 1980 to 1985.  "It has been the center of Catholic life and of France for 800 years."  As Armogathe points out, it is also quite literally the center of Paris: a gold star outside the cathedral marks Point Zero, the supposed center of the city.

But for some people in France, Notre Dame has also served as a deep-seated symbol of resentment, a monument to a deeply flawed institution and an idealized Christian European France that arguably never existed in the first place.  "The building was so overburdened with meaning that its burning feels like an act of liberation," says Patricio del Real, an architecture historian at Harvard University.  If nothing else, the cathedral has been viewed by some as a stodgy reminder of "the old city — the embodiment of the Paris of stone and faith —


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianity; france; koranimals; notredame; paris
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1 posted on 04/18/2019 7:11:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Michael Kimmelmann writes this for the New York Times, quoting Harvard University Historian of Architecture, Patricio del Real:

"... If nothing else, the cathedral has been viewed by some as a stodgy reminder of "the old city — the embodiment of the Paris of stone and faith — just as the Eiffel Tower exemplifies the Paris of modernity, joie de vivre and change,"


2 posted on 04/18/2019 7:15:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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I have had it with this neoliberal garbage.

Build it back the way it was. No...wait...not the way it was.

Scrap that Cranmerian dinner table, have Mass at the high altar, tell the Republic to go get stuffed, and bring back the monarchy. Altar and throne, and if they have a problem with it, they can go cry to the goddess Reason.

That’s where I’m at.


3 posted on 04/18/2019 7:15:57 AM PDT by Claud
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To: SeekAndFind

If the liberals had their way they’d turn the nave into a whore house, with an abortion clinic and bathhouse in the transepts.


4 posted on 04/18/2019 7:16:17 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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The left and Muslims.....both highly suspect in the fire.
5 posted on 04/18/2019 7:17:23 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would think the Catholic church should have something to say about that.


6 posted on 04/18/2019 7:19:14 AM PDT by llevrok (Vote while it's still legal)
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It would really be a shame if the yellow vests smashed the windows on all of the Moslem-owned businesses in Paris this weekend. Sure would hate to see that. In Minecraft, of course.


7 posted on 04/18/2019 7:19:38 AM PDT by cdcdawg (A couple more election cycles and they won't even need vote fraud)
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If not rebuilt as an iconic Christian shrine of sorts, the rebuild would be a fraud. Why go to all the trouble and sink vast sums of money into such an intellectually vacant endeavor. It was Christ, Christianity, the beliefs, commitments and a way of life that motivated its original construction. Once again, satanic forces want the world to exchange the truth for a lie,


8 posted on 04/18/2019 7:19:46 AM PDT by RatRipper
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Right.

It really should be rebuilt as a nice little wine bistro.


9 posted on 04/18/2019 7:20:34 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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The Left would have no objection if it was torn down and replaced with a mosque. They’d be happy.


10 posted on 04/18/2019 7:21:57 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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The Pope has been curiously undistressed about this.

Methinks if this had been a mosque fire, we would be hearing quite a lot more from His Holiness.


11 posted on 04/18/2019 7:22:48 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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You’d think so, but the church hierarchy is infested with liberal modernists right now. They will go right along with it.

Bishops have wrecked *their own* cathedrals with no help from the government. What Mahoney did in Los Angeles was an abomination.

The only hope is if the French trad orders (SSPX, FSSP) team up with enough artists and medievalists to put a stop to any wreckovation.


12 posted on 04/18/2019 7:23:27 AM PDT by Claud
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In lieu of the number of Muslims there are in France, perhaps they will propose that a Mosque would be built in its place. The Saudis would be glad to pay for it and a mosque being built over the ruins of a Church is standard operating procedure. //Sarc//


13 posted on 04/18/2019 7:23:55 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: SeekAndFind

Natch!


14 posted on 04/18/2019 7:24:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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In contrast, these same people have absolutely no objection to the “Muslim meaning” of the Mosques and Madrassas that are popping up like toadstools all over France and the rest of Europe.


15 posted on 04/18/2019 7:25:31 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: SeekAndFind

F*** them.


16 posted on 04/18/2019 7:27:30 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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But the discussion is already underway to rebuild the structure along more secular, "modern" lines.

Quelle surprise.

17 posted on 04/18/2019 7:28:04 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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This is the dumbest suggestion I’ve ever read.

It’s a church, not a fricking airport terminal.

It’s none of my business as a Jewish guy, but I am outraged at this suggestion.

Resist this crap.


18 posted on 04/18/2019 7:28:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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Take away the religious significance and you have a pile of stones. I doubt the original builders had that intent and instead built to honor God.


19 posted on 04/18/2019 7:29:32 AM PDT by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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and tell me, who did not see this coming


20 posted on 04/18/2019 7:31:05 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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