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It will reach the critical threshold only if enough of us cast aside denial and despair, and join this exuberant, proliferating movement. The time for excuses is over. The struggle to overthrow our life-denying system has begun.


Sorry the sun is coming up here in California and I have to head out to the farm to work for feeding America. You engaged people continue on with your furious attempts.

1 posted on 04/15/2019 6:20:20 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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No matter how clean we make our country India, China and third world pollution will be unaffected.


2 posted on 04/15/2019 6:23:47 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The article?

Pure English “eco insanity” horse crap.

Yes, we farm too and I know horse crap from hog manure. Both smell, one smells worse than the other.


3 posted on 04/15/2019 6:23:51 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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They want you to revolt so that you, and family, can freeze in the dark while being hungry.

The socialists master will be well taken care of though.


4 posted on 04/15/2019 6:24:24 AM PDT by 2banana (Were you)
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The commonest current excuse is this: “I bet those protesters have phones/go on holiday/wear leather shoes.” In other words, we won’t listen to anyone who is not living naked in a barrel

As repulsive as the image is, I wouldn't listen to you even if you were living naked in a barrel, George.

5 posted on 04/15/2019 6:24:54 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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> Everywhere I look, I see people engaged in furious attempts to fend off the moral challenge it presents. <

And everywhere I look, I see people engaged in furious attempts to shut down debate on the issue. And that is what really scares me.


6 posted on 04/15/2019 6:27:23 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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.George Monbiot, allegedly the origin of the felicitous phrase “barking moon bat.”
7 posted on 04/15/2019 6:28:14 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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The reason we don’t pay any attention to people like George Moonbat is not only because the leaders of their doomsday cult are blatant hypocrites it is primarily that there isn’t a shred of evidence to support their absurd positions. Man-caused global warming is poor fiction, and those who believe in it are gullible fools.


8 posted on 04/15/2019 6:32:55 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/climate-change/climate-alarm-failed-prognostications/

Acquaint yourselves with at least 5 specific FAILED Climate Change predictions. When needed rattle off who said them and when.

I have NEVER “lost” a discussion with a Climate Change alarmist. They are all generalists buying into hysteria.


10 posted on 04/15/2019 6:34:38 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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The wonders of this kind of BS are the unintended consequences. They may well make the planet a better place by starting a rebellion they can’t win and in the process arrange for the removal of enough socialists to make the planet a much better place in which to raise instead of abort our children.


11 posted on 04/15/2019 6:37:16 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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The Greenies want a war.


12 posted on 04/15/2019 6:38:17 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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If everyone who thinks CO2 is a dangerous pollutant would stop exhaling it, we could solve this problem overnight.


13 posted on 04/15/2019 6:41:13 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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FAKE NEWS OF THE DAY

The subways in Manhattan are flooded, Miami Beach is underwater, the Potomic River is lapping at the base of the Washington Monument.

The entire Hawaiian Island chain has slipped beneath the waters of the Pacific Ocean.

New Orleans is now a deep hole in the Gulf of Mexico protected only by leaking 50 foot levees and massive pumps running night and day.

Throughout the world people are dropping in the streets from starvation because of massive crop fallures.

Things are so bad that the illegal aliens are leaving the US and returning to Mexico and Central America on their own.

Muslims are voluntarily leaving flooded Europe and returning to the Mideast to dry out.


14 posted on 04/15/2019 6:41:49 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Give me Norfolk Virginia TideWater 4-10-09)
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That shooter I New Zealand is an Eco-Rebel.

That’s the bizarre mentality echoed in this article.


16 posted on 04/15/2019 6:43:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Planned Transformation

That is what this is....he admits it.

They wish to transform the world. The people reject their ideas....so they are going to try and force it upon everyone.

They just cannot fathom that they are the ones out of alignment with nature....human nature.


17 posted on 04/15/2019 6:48:23 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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About the same arguments at the Flat Earth folks have.


18 posted on 04/15/2019 6:50:59 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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When a conservative uses a word like ‘rebellion ‘, liberals
start ranting about hate speech and fascism. It’s interesting how calmly it’s accepted from the extreme left.


19 posted on 04/15/2019 6:54:07 AM PDT by Spok
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The article is screeching "DO something!!" but the author has no idea what we're supposed to be doing other than screaming "Do something!" like this lass is apparently up to:

They lump all things in together, real problems and imaginary or theoretical ones, and then demand some immediate, disruptive but undefined action to address them all simultaneously. The plastics in our oceans is a real and immediate problem, with some potentially effective real world approaches to addressing it. But it's being lumped in with nonsense like walrus suicides and tropical polar regions, so people just ignore screeching idiots like this writer.

It's a fuzzy mix of imaginary and real problems, with contradicting or counterproductive solutions tossed together with potentially viable resource management solutions or improvements. Even if everybody on earth agreed to do exactly what this idiot wants, nobody would know what that is.

20 posted on 04/15/2019 6:56:01 AM PDT by dead (Our next president is going to be sooooo boring.)
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“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

H.L. Mencken


21 posted on 04/15/2019 6:56:55 AM PDT by Walrus (Homosexuality is WRONG. End of case.)
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How much time and energy does it take to bind carbon to a stable state? Taking that carbon from deep underground, converting it and spewing it into the atmosphere can’t be good. The question is, how bad is it? The earth is an incredibly complex and balanced energy system and we really have no definite idea of how much it would take to throw it out of kilter — there are scientists who would say otherwise, that we do know, but I think they’re taking an agenda-driven worst-case scenario and bullhorning it to drown out any other thought.

Long-term, the sun is a essentially a massive nuclear reactor that is conveniently 92 million miles away, and that should be our primary source of energy. I see wind (as an energy source) as overly invasive and severely damaging to most ecosystems that it can be placed in, and nowhere near efficient enough. The technology will get there on solar, and society will gradually adjust off of fossil fuel and onto solar. Maybe not fast enough, I doubt any of us will be alive to see the day.

People who want to radically annihilate society as we know it, which is what they mean when they seek to ban fossil fuel within a very short time, are functioning primarily on an anti-human wavelength; they’ve elevated ecological and environmental concerns, the purity of the earth, to such a level level that they hate humans because they see humans a blaspheming the purity of the earth. It’s a very primitive mindset. The number of humans alive on earth could be compressed to a very small area. The issue is distribution and conspicuous consumption, but these radicals would rather lash out and destroy something tangible, enemy humans.

From a conservative perspective it is difficult and problematic to find a way to address the distribution and consumption angle while staying true to individual freedom. By the time the market addresses the issue of energy and makes the jump to renewable it may be too late to save personal freedom, but there is no other path I can think of from the right.. I really hope I don’t live to see THAT day.

22 posted on 04/15/2019 6:57:12 AM PDT by TheDandyMan
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Oh no, Gaia save us...! /S


23 posted on 04/15/2019 6:59:52 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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