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With no new talks, LA teacher strike all but inevitable
ABC News ^ | 1/14/19

Posted on 01/14/2019 3:49:38 AM PST by Libloather

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To: sparklite2

“Could the replacement teachers actually do a better job?”

Well, they couldn’t do any worse!


21 posted on 01/14/2019 6:28:34 AM PST by vette6387
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The la teachers are typical “not-paid-enough, overworked, unappreciated educators” who fail at their profession. I never have met an “educator” who didn’t spout that...and whine. They only “work” 8 months a year, get well-paid, get all sorts of holidays, have great benefits and retirement packages. What spoiled children. Fire them all. Close the schools for illegal aliens. Probably some of the teachers are illegal aliens. What a pathetic mess.


22 posted on 01/14/2019 6:42:55 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Libloather

Being that we’re talking public schools in California, the lives of the ‘students’ will GREATLY IMPROVE the longer they are out of school.


23 posted on 01/14/2019 7:13:07 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Libloather

California teachers lost my support, especially regarding class size, when their union spent millions to defeat Prop. 187 on free education for illegals. At that point, and as the challenges to it continued with heavy CTA involvement, I vowed never to support union demands for smaller classes.


24 posted on 01/14/2019 7:15:37 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

What they say for public consumption and what they insist on in the contract are different things.


25 posted on 01/14/2019 7:16:57 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
From June....

Pensions and Retiree Health Care Costs Contribute to LA Unified’s Fiscal Woes

26 posted on 01/14/2019 7:18:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Five Recommendations to Solve LAUSD’s Looming Fiscal Crisis

A 2018 Evaluation of LAUSD’s Fiscal Outlook: Revisiting the Findings of the 2015 Independent Financial Review Panel

The second link has a link to the full report.

27 posted on 01/14/2019 7:49:05 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Well, I understand that most people think being a teacher is easy, and of course, and parents think that the honor of spending the day with their darling children is frankly something teachers should be happy to do for a pittance. But the fact is, it’s a difficult job and most people do not want to do it. So pay up or teach your children on your own.


28 posted on 01/14/2019 6:14:33 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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What they say for public consumption and what they insist on in the contract are different things.

So, is the District pointing that out, loudly, or demanding the District's side be heard in their own words?

Our local news (over 1k miles away) "covered" this, last night, and everyone talking (beside the reporterette) was a student or a teacher. There might have been 5 seconds of the reporterette saying the District says it can't afford the Union's demands.

29 posted on 01/15/2019 12:06:52 AM PST by Paul R.
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To: A_perfect_lady

I don’t think I was ever in a class of under 2 dozen kids. It seemed to go very well. Of course, back then we had something called “discipline”.


30 posted on 01/15/2019 12:11:18 AM PST by Paul R.
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To: Oldexpat

Some do; more and more don’t even bother here in NJ. Their job is breeding - at least the anchor so they can stay. Our public school system would close half its buildings without them, so government turns a blind eye to them.


31 posted on 01/15/2019 3:44:35 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Paul R.

Yes. I’ve had Honors classes that were 42 and it was fine. But with the regular kids, you get over 33 and it gets difficult.


32 posted on 01/15/2019 5:47:14 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

Oh, agreed (my wife is a teacher), but, are we talking 30+ per class in LA?


33 posted on 01/15/2019 7:57:38 AM PST by Paul R.
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The standard class size when I was in elementary school was 30 students. That was the case at Pearl Harbor Elementary School (K-1), 1961, Hazel Goes Cook School (2nd, 4th) Chula Vista, CA, Adelaide Elementary School (3rd) Federal Way, WA, Taylor Elementary (5th) Norfolk, VA, West Springfield Elementary (5th) Springfield, VA, Rolling Valley Elementary (6th) Springfield, VA. There were no "teachers aids". Just one teacher in the classroom. We had books provided. Parents provided paper/pencil/erasers. School provided extras like "finger paint".
34 posted on 01/15/2019 3:17:38 PM PST by Myrddin
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The class sizes can vary wildly due to scheduling needs. I’ve had years where one class period was 24 and the next was 38, and no one seemed able to do anything about it. But yes, L.A. ... Like this year, I have six classes (we’re on an 8 block schedule, which I hate) and my class sizes are between 27 and 36. It’s the science teachers who really get slammed, for some reason. Ours had over 40 in every class last year. It’s just nuts.


35 posted on 01/15/2019 3:58:32 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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I did the 9th grade "science" class in Summer school between 8th and 9th grade. 40 students. 4 hours x 5 days each week. Great way to knock it out. Did the same for organic chemistry at UCSD. 8 AM to 5 PM lecture M-F, 6 PM to 10 PM labs T-Th. 10 weeks. Easy A that way. No distractions.
36 posted on 01/17/2019 11:46:33 AM PST by Myrddin
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