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No to an Emergency (National Review editorial)
National Review ^ | January 10, 2019 | The Editors

Posted on 01/10/2019 5:05:48 PM PST by EveningStar

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To: Theoria
Open borders mean more illegals and more money to support them. The Democrats are announcing to the millennials that they will increase the debt to support illegal immigrants, and the millennials and their children and grandchildren will have to service the debt for the rest of their lives.
21 posted on 01/10/2019 5:18:27 PM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: EveningStar

National who?


22 posted on 01/10/2019 5:18:29 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Trump 2020 - Re-Elect the M*****F***er!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why NRO is still allowed on this site is beyond my comprehension.


23 posted on 01/10/2019 5:21:11 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: EveningStar

It’s a terrible idea. Even if it’s legal...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No it is a GOOD idea. The Democrats have helped create this emergency at the Southern Border, which they now deny.But the American public knows the truth of it.

And it is Legal.

“In 2012, Obama declared a national emergency entitled, “Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen” in order to freeze the assets of anyone perceived to be negatively impacting a political transition in Yemen, VOA reported.

In 2014, the 44th president issued a national emergency referred to as “Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine,” which similarly locked the assets of those thought to be undermining democratic processes in Ukraine. These are just two of many internationally oriented states of emergency that Obama declared while in office. “

https://www.bustle.com/p/did-obama-ever-declare-a-national-emergency-trump-isnt-above-using-one-to-fund-his-wall-15722252

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Although the United States Constitution[13] contains no mention of any emergency powers granted to the President, some people claim that Congress has delegated at least 136 distinct statutory emergency powers to the President upon the declaration of an emergency, with only 13 of these requiring a declaration from Congress.[14]

Emergency presidential powers can be dramatic, and have ranged in the past from suspending all laws regulating chemical and biological weapons, including the ban on human testing (50 U.S.C. § 1515, 1969); to suspending any Clean Air Act implementation plan or excess emissions penalty upon petition of a state governor (42 U.S.C. (f) § 7410 (f) 1977);..............

NOTE *** to authorizing and constructing military construction projects (10 U.S.C. (a) § 2808 (a), 1982) ***End Note.......

using any existing defense appropriations for such military constructions ($10.4 billion in FY2018[15]); to drafting any retired Coast Guard officers (14 U.S.C. § 331, 1963) or enlisted members (14 U.S.C. § 359, 1949) into active duty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act#Procedure_for_new_emergencies


24 posted on 01/10/2019 5:22:32 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: EveningStar

“In the meantime, the administration will have built nothing new on the border and created another precedent for unilateral government sure to be exploited the next time a Democrat occupies the White House.”

Wall Street Journal also raising the this will set a precedent for the Democrats. Does anyone believe the Dems need or honor precedents?


25 posted on 01/10/2019 5:23:40 PM PST by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: Leep

I call it interNational Screw offline.


26 posted on 01/10/2019 5:24:05 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: EveningStar

I can remember when I used to read the National Review and the Investors Business Daily editorials thinking how is reading a bunch of really conservative stuff. Little did I know I was reading a bunch of globalist cheap labor American sellouts.


27 posted on 01/10/2019 5:24:09 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Either the Wall gets built or America becomes a democrat socialist state.)
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To: EveningStar
I actually agree with NR on this, though perhaps for different reasons. NR seems to think this isn't a sufficient "emergency" to warrant unilateral action by the President. I don't necessarily agree with that, but I do believe that Congress should absolutely NOT be given an "out" on this.

If I were President Trump I'd hold the line and follow this strategy:

1. Keep the partial shutdown in place at least through the end of January.

2. If Congress doesn't meet all of his demands in a funding bill by then, decline the invitation to give the State of the Union address before Congress. Instead, make it a nationally televised event in the White House and send the transcript of the speech as the president's report under the requirements laid out in the U.S. Constitution.

3. Reduce -- for real, not a general announcement with an indefinite timetable -- the troop levels in Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq by 1,000 personnel for every week the partial shutdown drags on. If Congress isn't willing to protect the U.S. borders, we sure as hell have no business protecting anyone else's.

28 posted on 01/10/2019 5:25:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: jjotto

Soldiers have been patrolling borders since, well, there were soldiers and borders.


29 posted on 01/10/2019 5:25:47 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: EveningStar
"...it would represent another unwelcome step in America’s long march toward unilateral government by the executive."

Better than unilateral government by the judicial.

30 posted on 01/10/2019 5:26:09 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: CincyRichieRich

Trump flushes them out. He has done us several favors in that regard.


31 posted on 01/10/2019 5:26:15 PM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: EveningStar

Just think if all the illegals are gone then employment
should rise in numbers for Citizens. We may reach an
unprecedented low number in unemployment.


32 posted on 01/10/2019 5:30:17 PM PST by deport
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The issue is redirecting military funds to the border fence. That would require a strained interpretation that treats the border fence as a military matter, among other legal gymnastics.

Oh, well we could treat the whole issue as an invasion and do 1846 again instead. if we push the border 200 miles south I betcha a lot of Mexicans would be very happy. That's certainly military action. Just ask the Governors of the Mexican states on the border if they want to join up and take yes for an answer. Plus I suspect some the border-straddling tribes would like to be completely in the US.

And the wall would be a lot simpler if it were further south, heheh.

33 posted on 01/10/2019 5:32:22 PM PST by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote...)
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To: EveningStar

Otherwise known as the Trotskyite Review


34 posted on 01/10/2019 5:32:42 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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To: proust

I think making people show themselves for who they really are is one of his most valuable attributes.


35 posted on 01/10/2019 5:33:27 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: EveningStar

“WE ARE STILL CUCKS”


36 posted on 01/10/2019 5:39:43 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: EveningStar

NR one step behind the The Weekly Standard.


37 posted on 01/10/2019 5:44:07 PM PST by CharleysPride (Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Thank you, President Trump.)
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To: EveningStar
"The issue is redirecting military funds to the border fence. That would require a strained interpretation that treats the border fence as a military matter,..."

If anyone who was intending to carry out a terrorist attack has tried to cross the border, that shouldn't be a problem. The lack of physical southern border security also presents an opportunity for spies to cross, which is a military matter. There are also some obvious movements towards expansionism overseas, which have historically developed into world wars. Those movements are now reaching into South America and the Caribbean.

So yes, the planned southern border obstacles would amount to a wise improvement. Mexico is actually trying to help but doesn't have revenues or other resources to apprehend threats as much, for example, as Canada does.

38 posted on 01/10/2019 5:48:20 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: EveningStar

By the way, Canada also has a high-tech joint defense with us including combined personnel training. Canada has military forces that are proportional to ours with the population difference considered. Canada is our eyes and ears to the north with the latest equipment.

Mexico, although trying more to help now (see President of Mexico and new commercial zone planned for the south side of the border), doesn’t have the resources revenues or conditions to do what Canada is doing. So yes, the barrier is needed on the southern border. It will make national security easier for north America in general. That includes Mexico, because it will slow down some of the heavy traffic coming into Mexico from countries to the south of Mexico.

It’s a military matter, and the barrier would be far more cost effective over time than keeping enough personnel down there to watch the border without the barrier.


39 posted on 01/10/2019 5:57:21 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: EveningStar

Following the Weekly Standard model I see.


40 posted on 01/10/2019 5:57:45 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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