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Political Parties Can No Longer Harness Their Bases
Townhall.com ^ | November 7, 2018 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/07/2018 10:15:13 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/07/2018 10:15:13 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Never Trumper at his best.


2 posted on 11/07/2018 10:22:00 AM PST by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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To: Kaslin

Political parties “weed out bad candidates”? Both major, U.S. political parties have failed to “weed out bad candidates”, and this is continuing, today! Far Leftist candidates with domestic violence records and RINO Republicans are two examples of bad candidates who aren’t “weeded out”!


3 posted on 11/07/2018 10:22:13 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Kaslin

Good one Katlyn. As The Bible States the next stage is global 1 world socialism I find it interesting how this article plays into that issue. Just how will the strength of the American people, their faith, be weakened so much that it can be overcome by utopian ideals that have never worked in the past.

Certainly we do live in interesting times!


4 posted on 11/07/2018 10:25:46 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Correct. ALL the neverTrumpers in the House lost.

Heller was lukewarm at best. Vukmir and Walker didn’t want Trump around.

Two of the few Trump supporters who lost was Jason Lewis and Matt Rosendale. I still don’t get MT. This should be solid red.

Lewis was in a bluish district. MN looked as though it was moving toward Trump but fizzled.


5 posted on 11/07/2018 10:26:22 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Kaslin

This is very insightful - thanks for posting this, Kaslin.

I hadn’t thought about the eclipsing of political parties leading to the division we have today. It’s obvious the phone, computers, teleconferencing, the Internet, 24/7 cable TV and internet political sites and chat have had a big influence, but I hadn’t thought about those media replacing political parties. Goldberg does a good job explaining why insane libs, in the absence of moderating forces of traditional parties and conventions, have taken over everything in modern life and infused it with politics. Explains why you cannot watch a sporting event, a concert, an awards show, go to a restaurant, etc without getting slapped in the face (or worse) with politics.

In short, it explains why modern life has been thoroughly ruined by politics and the ends of moderating parties and party bosses.

The big question is “Where does it go from here?” Are there ANY possible moderating forces on the horizon that can control this typhoon?


6 posted on 11/07/2018 10:28:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Never Trumpster pundits like this clown are no longer needed to tell us how to vote and why!


7 posted on 11/07/2018 10:28:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Hillary has a better chance of winning in 2020 than 1 of those “bombs” going off! ~ Normsrevenge)
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Wow JoNah’s inner fascist coming to the fore today. How dare the people govern their own destiny! Their “betters” in the poltical party should be managing them better!


8 posted on 11/07/2018 10:29:05 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

The in mass retiring of a whole slew of rhino republicans I believe was a deep swamp sabotage in a mid term election. However in the long run it ended up weeding out rhinos from the Republican party. The strengthening of the party just took place.

I suspect the next stage of trump negotiations over the fate of America just switched to hardball.


9 posted on 11/07/2018 10:29:13 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Explains why you cannot watch a sporting event, a concert, an awards show, go to a restaurant, etc without getting slapped in the face (or worse) with politics.

Andrew Breitbart was spot on when he remarked that politics is downstream of culture.
10 posted on 11/07/2018 10:30:24 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: LS

Would you please post a list of the House Never Trumpsters, who were voted out of office?

Thanks
Dave


11 posted on 11/07/2018 10:30:51 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Hillary has a better chance of winning in 2020 than 1 of those “bombs” going off! ~ Normsrevenge)
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To: Kaslin

Was this satire?

Maybe he wants us to have a red chip or blue chip implanted in their head so we can take orders from headquarters. `


12 posted on 11/07/2018 10:32:25 AM PST by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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To: MNJohnnie

“How dare the people govern their own destiny! Their “betters” in the political party should be managing them better!”

Amen Bro!

Jonah and his DC peers are starting realize that we don’t need nor want them anymore!


13 posted on 11/07/2018 10:34:26 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Hillary has a better chance of winning in 2020 than 1 of those “bombs” going off! ~ Normsrevenge)
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To: Kaslin

The Republicans only lost because of the massive censorship campaign against them.


14 posted on 11/07/2018 10:38:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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Jonah is saying the horse started to leave the barn when the telephone was invented and party bosses could begin plotting long before the conventions. The eclipse of parties and strong political bosses accelerated with the telephone, television and internet. We’ve all instinctively known this, but he lays out a cogent analysis of what happened.

Say what you will about political bosses selecting the candidates, it did weed out the flakes and crazy and led to better, more sober statesmen getting nominated at all levels. We didn’t have insane socialists and communists making inroads into our politics. We didn’t have such inflamed passions where you can’t even dine in a restaurant or watch an awards show or football game without the crazies accosting or assaulting you.

That genie isn’t going back into the bottle, either. Unless there is somebody strong enough to put a leash on the crazies, we now have the “new norm” in front of us and it isn’t pretty. It may well lead to civil war and the complete failure of the Republic.

I honestly never would have expected modern communications technologies to have led to that. We all thought they would lead to more civic engagement and more sober discussion of policies, not to unhinged crazy hordes and mobs organizing themselves.


15 posted on 11/07/2018 10:41:29 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Army Air Corps
Andrew Breitbart was spot on when he remarked that politics is downstream of culture.

Yes and no. They feed off each other. Once SCOTUS ruled for fake marriage in Obergefell vs. Hodges, the floodgates opened, same thing with abortion and ROe v. Wade. The anti-culture warriors needed the political hat rack of a SCOTUS decision to freeze things in their position, and to win over those who didn't have a moral commitment, but wanted to be generally law abiding.
16 posted on 11/07/2018 10:42:03 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, well, Jonah, the parties SUCK, so it’s no great loss.


17 posted on 11/07/2018 11:03:26 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

Baloney.

The purpose of the Democrat Party is to elect thieves to public office so that they have access to the public treasuries in order to loot them.

Their base is thieves.

“I vote Democrat because they will steal for me. I know they keep some of the stolen money for themselves, but I’ll get some.”


18 posted on 11/07/2018 11:04:42 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SaraJohnson
He's right about one thing.

I've said for more than two years now that political party affiliation means less today than it has at any time in my life. I've voted pretty consistently for Republicans, but I am not registered with any party and I have no faith in the GOP leadership. I run into more and more people here on FR who say the same thing.

19 posted on 11/07/2018 11:13:28 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Grampa Dave

The other thing that amuses about JG here. In his world Hillary Clinton was the perfect candidate. A corrupt career politician carefully pushed through the nomination process by party possess who carefully protected her from the “crazy” candidates.


20 posted on 11/07/2018 11:31:09 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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