Posted on 10/17/2018 6:58:15 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
No, he's not.
The base is up in arms with Char-lie.
If he wins in 3 weeks, it will be the 'Rats voting for him.
He has done TOO many RECENT things to piss us off.
Most real republicans I know here will either blank the vote or write-in Scott Lively (even though Scott has asked folks to not do that). Some may vote for the 'Rat, with the notion no improvement comes without hitting rock bottom (presuming we are not there already).
They’re conflicted? :)
-—Nice insult to your parents.——
It’s not an insult. I’ve had lengthy political discussions with Mom. It’s just the way she is. Dems=the Working Man; GOP=the Rich. It’s reflexive, and she’s too old to change. Charlie Baker is the only kind of Repub she’d ever vote for, because he’s basically a Democrat too.
-—Baker’s an acceptable Mass. Republican.
No, he’s not.——
You know what I meant. He’s acceptable to a State whose voters are majority Democrat.
YOU might not vote for him, but he’ll win easily, as expected.
In very liberal areas, there is a ballet with Democrat and Republican on it. But people from those areas read it as, Democrat and Democrat lite. Foe instance, Bloomberg called himself a republican as he ran for mayor of New York. But Bloomberg is a democrat in every single respect. He may not be a socialist. He may not advocate for getting rid of ICE. But he is democrat in every other way.
A lot of old folks only watch CBS ABC NBC fake news and read the local commie paper and then they vote dem by tradition.
They’re dying off and FDR is long dead so, hopefully.....
Agree he will win. But, perhaps not as easily as he himself thought prior to the MA GOP convention, when Lively took ~38% of the vote.
“Dems=the Working Man; GOP=the Rich. It’s reflexive, and she’s too old to change.”
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You’re never too old to change-—it’s just that your mother is a hardcore Dem-——that’s her problem,not her age.
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Edward Brook, for example...
-—You’re never too old to change-—it’s just that your mother is a hardcore Dem-——that’s her problem,not her age.——
She’s too set in her ways. I can see the cognitive dissonance in direct conversation. She thinks the Democratic Party hasn’t changed since she was young, and it definitely has. Anything that they’re doing that’s leftist or hardcore crazy? She soft-pedals and dowmplays it, and acts like it’s no big deal, not important, or only the opinion of a small fringe. “Well I don’t agree with that, but...”
Trust me on this one.
Again, I know nothing about Mass politics, never been there, so I am trying to understand.
If its as you say, just Dems voting for him, and no GOP support, how do you explain him about to win by 40 points or so?
Obviously when getting 60%+ of the vote, you are not simply relying on one party for support, even in Mass.
Mass does have an over 3 to 1 registration advantage for Dems, but it also has more unaffiliated voters than both parties combined.
“Trust me on this one.”
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Oh,I do.
Just avoid political discussions.
I have 2 hardcore liberal daughters-——we NEVER discuss politics.
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Up until not too long ago, MA would even send Republicans to Congress: Brooke, Saltonstall, Lodge.
That said, in all other ways we are a one-party state and have been so for quite some time. Like other areas of the country, our urban areas tend to dominate. We have many former mill cities that, charitably speaking, are on the "taking" side of the ledger, and they tend to vote the way you think they would.
We are also very much a machine state. That's the only way you can explain people like Markey.
And we are a higher-education dominated state. That's how you explain people like Warren, and people like Kerry. College-aged kids, who tend to be liberal / progressive, put in their 4+ years in greater Boston and vote the way you think they would.
We're not Vermont, but we do have our own hippie swath in the Berkshires.
Our least liberal areas are the suburbs and ex-burbs of greater Boston, but sprinkled around that crescent are several ultra-rich towns populated by limo liberals and the most odious variety of NIMBY progressives.
But it's the machine that'll keep the Commonwealth blue. Our state GOP party is a painful joke.
Mutt explains in his own words just how much of a "republican" he is.
Lifetime resident of MA here.
MA voters are deluded (they think socialism is workable) but they are not necessarily stupid. Sure, they are over-educated by our many colleges and brainwashed by our fine government schools, but it's a high income, high technology state. The people here aren't dumb.
So, they elect a state legislature that is just full of Democrats -- because we want a generous state government that will push us closer to the Utopia of socialism.
But we know that skyrocketing taxes and skyrocketing spending might actually collapse the state, so although we just love socialism, we also want some sort of check on the system.
So we have a history of electing a Republican governor. Of course, not a real Republican (they're just dangerous!) but we're looking for a chief executive that will occasionally disagree with our Leftwing state legislature and make sure they don't run completely off the rails.
MA has drifted very far from it's roots, but we do still understand the concept of Checks and Balances in government.
When my wife worked in Mass. she had to file out of state income tax.
One item summed up Mass. for me.
After entering your total Mass. income there was a box to enter how much of your income was derived from illegal activity.
I’m from CT and I have a lot of things to say about the entire region.
I have experience in MA with many friends being from there, my ultra-leftist sister lives there and some of the worst experiences in my life have been in that god-awful commonwealth.
-—Our state GOP party is a painful joke.-—
Yes. Your whole post was excellent and correct.
Three are still enclaves of lunchpail towns who aren’t reflexively DEM and when they get fed up enough will vote the other way, though.
My suburban middle-class town narrowly voted for Trump. And there were many others. But - of course - Hillary’s margins in Boston, Worcester, Brockton, Taunton, Fall River, etc swamp all that.
There you go !
I’ve been saying this for years. I get some pretty hefty backlash from it too.
Ping me if you’re ever in that situation, I’ve got your six.
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