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Awful case. This type of allegation is easy to make, and how can it be proved, either way?
1 posted on 09/10/2018 10:32:04 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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After Lucy was found, the complainant failed to attend a meeting in August to discuss her testimony, Hummel said. Last Wednesday, one of his investigators heard she was at a home near Redmond. When he pulled up to the driveway, she ran away.


2 posted on 09/10/2018 10:39:23 PM PDT by conservative98
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If the dog didn’t $#*+ you must acquit.


3 posted on 09/10/2018 10:39:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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“Six months after a jury convicted Horner in a verdict that was not unanimous, he asked the Oregon Innocence Project for help. The group took up his case.”

How do you get convicted in a hung jury?


5 posted on 09/10/2018 10:45:54 PM PDT by mindburglar (I like spelling it Lazers. It looks cooler.)
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To: BlackVeil

Confusing story.
The man seems to have been convicted with flimsy evidence and exonerated with equally flimsy evidence.
I guess he could not afford a (good) lawyer.
The accuser should be sued for defamation and much, much more.


6 posted on 09/10/2018 10:53:42 PM PDT by lee martell (AT)
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Here is what will happen to the false accuser:

NOTHING.

8 posted on 09/10/2018 10:55:21 PM PDT by TChad
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This little sh1t of a woman needs to serve his 50 year sentence.


13 posted on 09/10/2018 11:09:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BlackVeil

An allegation must be proved and does not need be disproved. There is no proving an allegation “either way”. That is liberal tripe for logic. Make an allegation and then proclaim that there are two sides to every story.


19 posted on 09/11/2018 12:09:14 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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But Hillary says women should always be believed.


21 posted on 09/11/2018 1:40:41 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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the complainant testified Horner

Name the damn complainant. She has ruined Horner's life but she gets a free ride. Put her name out there.

23 posted on 09/11/2018 2:28:50 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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WTF?


24 posted on 09/11/2018 3:17:35 AM PDT by Ciexyz (I have one issue and it's my economic well-being.)
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Hummel told the court Monday he’s not certain that Horner did not sexually abuse the complainant, but that he’s now not convinced he did. The Associated Press is not naming her because it doesn’t identify alleged victims of sexual abuse.

What kind of statement was that for the DA to make? The only evidence was the testimony of a liar. The poor guy deserves a full exoneration. Oh, and the girl is not the victim of sexual abuse, she's a liar and perjurer. She must be named in case she should move elsewhere and does this again.

25 posted on 09/11/2018 3:18:24 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act" - George Orwell)
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The appeals court said the defense had not been allowed to present certain evidence........

Same thing happened to a good friend of mine. AFter serving six years, the state supreme court ordered a new trial. While still guilty, the original life sentence was reduced to 8 years with time served.......

26 posted on 09/11/2018 3:25:16 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I once found a needle in a haystack but it wasn't the one I was looking for...)
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https://www.ktvz.com/news/deschutes-da-drops-judge-dismisses-sex-abuse-charges/793006553

Per above link, am I reading that right, the alleged vic was his daughter?! And the jury did come in with a non-unanimous verdict.


28 posted on 09/11/2018 3:29:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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Various types of sex crimes certainly *do* occur in this country.Crimes against adults *and* kids.But when a guy is *wrongly* accused of such a crime (which does happen at least occasionally) he’s in heap big trouble because political correctness makes presenting a credible defense very difficult indeed.


30 posted on 09/11/2018 4:45:57 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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They... didn’t have to present the body? Heh.


32 posted on 09/11/2018 6:00:18 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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Solution?

The accuser should have to serve out the remainder of his sentence.


33 posted on 09/11/2018 6:02:47 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Liberalism is the philosophy of sniveling brats. - P.J. ORourke)
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“Six months after a jury convicted Horner in a verdict that was not unanimous, he asked the Oregon Innocence Project for help. The group took up his case.”

The Innocence Project often get a bad rep here. I don't know why. They're doing good work. They're very selective as to what cases they take (everyone in prison is innocent if you ask them) and contrary to popular belief, their research actually confirms more guilty verdicts than exonerations.

34 posted on 09/11/2018 6:06:50 AM PDT by Drew68
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When I hear cases like this I have to ask how the “proof beyond reasonable doubt” standard was met?

An innocent person was sent to prison without the required *proof*. All it took was the testimony of a female.


35 posted on 09/11/2018 6:46:46 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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Sounds like a Mueller trial.


36 posted on 09/11/2018 8:14:57 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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