Posted on 08/24/2018 6:12:10 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
Edited on 08/24/2018 10:11:30 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
The arrest of a Mexican farmworker in the death of an Iowa college student renewed calls to change immigration laws, but it also focused attention on the immigrant workers whose labor is essential to the state's agricultural industry.
Hours after authorities found the body of Mollie Tibbetts and charged the suspect with murder, politicians including President Donald Trump, the Iowa governor and two senators expressed outrage that Cristhian Bahena Rivera had been able to live illegally in the U.S. for years. They urged a wider crackdown on illegal immigration.
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It also highlights the fact that some agriculture businesses are willing to 'look the other way' to get the workers they need.
Rules only work when people follow them.
From what I have read the scumbag murderer used someone elses documents to pass e-verify.
Nope, the farm’s rep backtracked on their first bull story about using e-verify. Now the current one is they used the Soc-Security number check. Duh, phoney SS#. (Recently Medicare issued new id cards with new numbers replacing old SS numbers because of the vast number of ID thefts.)
Big Ag dindonuttin, the eggs must go through, even it requires human sacrifice.
Balderdash.
The presence of legal immigrants isn’t being brought into question, but of illegal aliens.
Yes, legal immigrants may commit crimes but they asked to enter the country and we gave them permission to do so ... so it’s not also true of them that they’ve no right to even be here in the first place as it is with Illegal Aliens.
This is why I think we should use the illegal status of any Illegal Alien committing a crime as cause to increase the severity of what crimes they are charged with, and thus the relative severity of punishments meted out.
If the only way your business can succeed is by breaking the law, you’re not running a business. You’re running a criminal enterprise.
I saw on Huffpost that Mollie’s parents issued a statement condemning Trump’s use of Mollie’s death. So they join in with the Lewinskys, the Khans, Mother Stevens in sticking with Democrat talking points over the lives of their children.
Nice, ain’t it?
They always leave out the word “illegal.”
It’s like using it is against their religion.
I have to agree with the farm associations. Their business model was build on guest workers just like the fruit picking industry. That can’t change on a dime without disrupting our food supply chain & putting many farms/growers out of business. President Trump has talked about how the farmers have been being hammered for 11 years. The trade deals his administration are making is supposed to improve the farmer’s situation.
We do need a guest worker program so that there is a legal way for the workers to come in and be checked for prior history of criminal behavior, to be monitored and to check that they leave when their guest worker pass is over. Since we want to protect American jobs there needs to be a preference for American workers, a minimum salary and the quotas of guest passes need to be serially adjusted to best serve America’s interests.
first murder in my home town est. in 1700’s came in early 2000’s after a local farmer decided to import labor from south of border and build them place to stay year round.
murder happened between two illegal guys and 1 illegal woman. they brng more than their work ability with them, many bring their culture of selfishness and uncaring destruction.
Have seen it multiple times since in other states I’ve been in too, many illegals don’t care about laws or civility toward citizens, just out for what they can get for themselves.
Even when you try to be good to them they still try to take/get more than what’s offered.
First, there is nothing particularly harder about this work than working construction, or janitorial, or in a warehouse. It's just work.
Second, we import foreigners from thousands of miles away when our cities (and countryside) are filled with able bodied unemployed people on welfare. No effort is ever made to connect these people with the agricultural jobs. Something is wrong with this picture.
Hah!
1) Plenty of people on welfare ...
2) What was your excuse during the dreadful 0bama years?
He did NOT pass E-Verify! The dairy operation didn’t use it. They lied initially. They claim he used a valid SSN, but that has not yet been publicly verified, nor has it been publicly verified that the SSN was not provided by the employer.
the American Farm Bureau Federation said that it would support a mandatory electronic employee verification system only if the federal government also created an agriculture worker program, protected employers who may have inadvertently hired workers not in the country legally and allowed workers already hired to remain on the job under a new program.
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Amnesty or no enforcement.
That has always been the position of the Cheap Labor Express.
Amnesty is as much for the employers of illegal aliens as it is for the illegal aliens.
There is no labor shortage but there is a wage shortage.
The scale of production is so large today. It does take lots of labor and the problems associated with it. Sadly, many Americans are not willing or able to be labor material. No motivation or skills or willingness to do anything manual. Farm labor is much easier than it used to be, but it is foreign to many as we are a more urban culture. Technology is coming in the form of robots and self driving machinery.
Big business took their toys overseas for various reasons, one being labor, but a farm cannot do that. I am happy Big business is returning and hopefully labor can be something that is honored and appreciated again.
For farms also, there has been a push to get larger over the years, and I think the full implication of the labor needed was not a first consideration.
The bottom line is still control of the border and an good orderly process for legal immigration and an airtight temporary immigrant labor system.
Too much legal immigration. Shut it all down.
This is exactly like slave-owners making their economic case for slavery. It took a bloody war to disabuse them of their nonsense. Will it take another one?
Slave-owners at least acknowledged that they were responsible for their slaves and their actions. That makes them honorable compared to today’s Cheap Labor Express.
That's a loophole big enough to drive a semi through. They will keep hiring illegals and when they get caught it will be "inadvertent".
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