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The Origins of Our Second Civil War
NRO ^ | 31 July 2018 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/31/2018 7:01:18 AM PDT by lowbuck

Edited on 07/31/2018 8:42:48 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Globalism, the tech boom, illegal immigration, campus radicalism, the new racialism . . . Are they leading us toward an 1861? How, when, and why has the United States now arrived at the brink of a veritable civil war?

Almost every cultural and social institution

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar; culture; culturewars; cw2; origins; politicized; vdh
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Obama could not have usurped the office he was not eligible to hold without the complete cooperation of BOTH parties.

BOTH parties conspired to violate the Constitution.


It has been that way for about 50 years at least.

Not so much the parties conspiring to violate the Constitution, as the media being part of the Progressive ideological identity that holds the Constitution is irrelevant.

If you did not agree with that ideology, you got choked out of national politics fairly quickly.


61 posted on 07/31/2018 8:48:42 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Democrats elected Trump.

Republicans almost beat him.


62 posted on 07/31/2018 8:52:13 AM PDT by Jim Noble (p)
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To: MNJohnnie

yet, the roots of all our current poltical ills rest in the virulent, rampant poltical corruption of the Clinton years. They weaponized everything from Government Statistics, the bureaucracy, the ‘news” media. The damage the Presidency of Clinton did to to our poltical system and our culture are enormous.


The Clintons were mostly a symptom. They woke up enough of the people that there was the Republican revolution of 1994. Then the Media realized that being somewhat “fair” wasn’t good enough to move their agenda forward. They went all out propaganda to get Clinton re-elected.

They traded credibility for votes to maintain political power. Only credibility, once spent, is hard to regain.

With Trump’s election, they had spent their credibility down to a negative level, and they could not stop President Trump from being elected.

So it wasn’t the Clinton’s corruption, it was the willingness of the Progressive machine to aid and abet that corruption.


63 posted on 07/31/2018 8:55:14 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: lowbuck
Reforming the university would help too, mostly by abolishing tenure, requiring an exit competence exam for the BA degree (a sort of reverse, back-end SAT or ACT exam), and ending government-subsidized student loans that promote campus fiscal irresponsibility and a curriculum that ensures future unemployment for too many students.

I totally agree. Even liberal arts schools used to teach reading, writing, and logic.

64 posted on 07/31/2018 9:00:39 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: lowbuck

Bump!


65 posted on 07/31/2018 9:10:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: lowbuck

We should really piss off the left and reinstate the draft. And this time with no deferments.

Just for the fun of it.

They would make useless soldiers. But at they could handle a weapon.


66 posted on 07/31/2018 9:12:47 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: TADSLOS

Things were already in place but Obama set them in motion.
...and still is.

OFA

#Resist

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That’s an excellent reminder/point.

Obama continues to do everything he can to bleed America to death with a thousand cuts.


67 posted on 07/31/2018 9:13:05 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: KyCats

I agree in terms that we will not see the 10th Alabama sallying forth against the 70th NY, but what makes civil war is not uniforms or flags, but weapons and devotion to a cause. While devotion to America and its ideals is great do not sell the Red Progressive short. If the 20th century taught us anything it is that the Reds are willing to kill and to die.


68 posted on 07/31/2018 9:16:38 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: lowbuck

Why would there be a war? Is there a war in Europe? They are being systematically destroyed just as we are. The same methods apply in both cases. The Europeans haven’t risen up to do anything. Neither will we.

We still don’t even have a political party to represent us in what’s left of an old shell game. We have no “resistance” movement. No national strategy to secure our union, no militia, no armed patriotic committees, hell 9 out of 10 people on this website would prefer to be flogged in public before involving themselves in any organization that the media would immediately slander as “anti-Semitic”.

It is very simple why there will be NO CIVIL WAR, because we won’t fight one! They will foul our nest with millions of the worlds useless eaters and we will drown in it! We will be swallowed up and buried by a sea of third world illiterates and we will do it surrounded by the worlds most powerful military ever devised! One that we paid for with our own labor for over a century.

No, there will be no Civil War. Just a daily reading of the horrible headlines until the light flickers out.


69 posted on 07/31/2018 9:19:12 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Starboard

We have a friend who has set up an online MBA with a key/top MBA university program.

There will probably be a nationwide launch of this program early next year.

Private colleges both online and a combo of online and campus are offering programs in California to train students in 2-3 years versus UC and Cal State 5-7 year degree programs. Employers are hiring the new certificate holding grads.


70 posted on 07/31/2018 9:29:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Mexico's elite/white conquistadors have manipulated & interfered in our elections, since Ike!)
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To: lowbuck

With a title like that, I was expecting to see a picture of obama.


71 posted on 07/31/2018 9:29:49 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: The Toll
"One that we paid for with our own labor and blood for over a century."

Slight correction.

72 posted on 07/31/2018 9:31:18 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: central_va

You should have seen it in 1980.

Remember GHWB’s “voodoo economics” crack?


73 posted on 07/31/2018 9:34:56 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: lowbuck

I like his formulations and sentence construction, but he is rambling everywhere here, citing this and that, like a laundry list of pet grievances.

I think he takes excerpts from other essays and roughly creates an amalgam — even repeating himself at times with, for example, the line “sinners and saints.”

This is like a composite of “the best of” lines from other essays. And though they contribute to the general malaise there is no overarching theme, no central issue like slavery was in the first Civil War.

Maybe there is no overarching theme and it is a cultural war on many fronts. I think — if I had to guess — the overarching theme is the decline or demise of the West or America. That seems sufficiently broad. The decline of the West by the West — the inner rot growing strong enough to change and destroy America.


74 posted on 07/31/2018 9:36:57 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: Bonemaker; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; null and void

[“How, when, and why has the United States now arrived at the brink of a veritable civil war?”

Obama.]

That is correct. I believe he was sent by Satan to destroy this nation. Now, I do wear a tinfoil hat from time-to-time.

But, look at his works. Look at him dropping “God” in references from time-to-time. Look at him “God blessing” Planned Parenthood.


75 posted on 07/31/2018 9:45:21 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: lowbuck
The Origins of Our Second Civil War

1. Universal suffrage (and that includes men too)

2. Federal reserve

3. Income taxes

Nearly all US pathologies can be traced to these.

76 posted on 07/31/2018 9:45:27 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: KyCats
As soon as we completely occupy and shut down the leftist media in this country, I will change my mind about all of the above.

You don't even have FOX anymore so we better start soon. 😀

77 posted on 07/31/2018 9:47:26 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: DesertRhino

yes


78 posted on 07/31/2018 9:49:02 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: allendale
DITTOES!!!
79 posted on 07/31/2018 9:49:43 AM PDT by rhubarbk (Winning, Winning, Winning . . . MAGA it's a beautiful thing!!!)
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To: precisionshootist

We need to retain control at all costs or the party is over.

***************

Under the “leadership” of Ryan and McConnell control has been an illusion. They have resisted Trump nearly as much as the Democrats have.

If Jordan gets elected Ppeaker, which is a long shot given McCarthy’s entrenched position, there is a ray of hope.


80 posted on 07/31/2018 9:51:30 AM PDT by Starboard
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