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The Origins of Our Second Civil War
NRO ^ | 31 July 2018 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/31/2018 7:01:18 AM PDT by lowbuck

Edited on 07/31/2018 8:42:48 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: allendale

>>the abolishment of Federal law enforcement

Not abolishment. Repurposing. And that began 25 years ago under Clinton.


121 posted on 07/31/2018 7:04:01 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: T-Bird45

That special dispensation wasn’t worth the paper it was printed on, a sense of the Senate Resolution does not over ride the Constitution.
It is curious that they cited McCain’s TWO citizen parents as to why he was a natural born citizen and that Obama voted for it, knowing he had only one.

It was all a smoke screen for the Kenyanesian Usurpation.

Obama told us he was born a British subject because of his foreign national father. He was slyly telling us he was not a natural born citizen. Naturally born citizens have only one nationality. That is the whole point of insisting on a natural born citizen. Naturally a citizen because they could not possibly be anything else. The founders rejected “citizen at birth” as not restrictive enough as it allowed for children of foreign nationals to be become President.

http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

As long as Pelosi signed off, no one else checked.
Interestingly she sent a different form to 49 states than the one she sent to Hawaii.


122 posted on 07/31/2018 7:10:44 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: lowbuck

This time the “Union” forces will not be led by incompetent jellyfish like McClellan, our arms will be better than those of the enemy (more of them with able-bodied and willing defenders of freedom carrying them), and our tactics will make Patton and Eisenhower jealous.

If the Left thinks that they are going to have a physical revolution (a fool’s revolution in the real world), then let them “dream on” to quote the great philosopher Stevie Tyler. While they dream, we scheme. While they riot, we organize. While they try to attack innocent free speech people, we will be waiting for them - “Surprise, Surprise, Surprise” as that other great philosopher Gomer Pyle once said.

For those of us who fought the Left in the 60’s and 70’s we know how the enemy works, thinks, organizes. As Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse once said to Custer, “Surprise!”

This time we will be the “Indians” and the Left, the “Reds”. Welcome to Little Big Horn. We have cookies for you.


123 posted on 07/31/2018 8:28:04 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

#105: Re “Blessed are the peacemakers” (UPDATED) who are armed, trained and willing to fight for peace.


124 posted on 07/31/2018 8:30:43 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: lowbuck

In the matter of a second American civil war, at this point, investigating the its “origins” is a waste of time. All that really matters is its committing ourselves to its outcome - and we should make damn certain that the end resolve thus: we win, they lose.

And by “lose,” I do not intend that the vanquished be allowed to return to their previous state of existence. No. Rather I mean to say that, in the circumstance of a second American civil war, our goal should be that every leftist within the United States is identified and eliminated - without regard to age, sex, or condition. No prisoners. No quarter. No mercy.

It has come down to a matter of survival: us or them; that is - we shall either reclaim those freedoms guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution, or else we shall wear the chains of Communism. At this point in our history there can be no middle ground.

We can neither reform nor “coexist” with these individuals. We should stop deceiving ourselves in believing that any form of compromise exists - or ever did exist. And we should stop wasting time and energy in making attempts to do so. Compromise with these people was never really probable; nor is such an outcome now possible. More pointedly, I’ll wager that, for most of us, a reconciliation is no longer even desirable.

As I see the situation, civil war is inevitable.


125 posted on 07/31/2018 11:45:38 PM PDT by JME_FAN (uired to)
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To: lowbuck

The Fabians and the massive Eastern European migration here from 1880-1924

That and open borders later from 1965 onwards

Those two things changed the complexion and nature of the population and culture and urbanized as a victimhood minority self identification....couldn’t get into that country club or school sort of thing

Whose ramifications are still heard today ...

Their great grandkids are seeking upheaval and with the help of minorities allowed in through white guilt quotas and open borders they know have the numbers

Abbie Hoffman should have been patient


126 posted on 07/31/2018 11:55:42 PM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: lowbuck

BFL


127 posted on 08/01/2018 4:12:32 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: hitting center of mass)
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To: JME_FAN

Bring it on ...and soon — before I get too old. I want a chance to live through it, and to enjoy the view afterwards!!!!


128 posted on 08/01/2018 4:23:33 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Bishop_Malachi
"Globalist socialism and globalist capitalism have a common trait that is antithetical to national sovereignty. The state must be subjugated to a “world” or “international” order that imposes policies from the top down. Nations become to the “one world government” as U.S. states have become to our Federal government...no thanks.

Of course this is true (and I am well aware of it). But the bunch raising all the hell in the USA right now is the leftist bunch.

129 posted on 08/01/2018 4:48:59 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: allendale

More importantly...a vote for democrats will deepen..the deep state and normalize their seditious acts on American electoral system and the use of federal agencies as weapons against American citizens.

Ought to scare the hell..into...every single American. Crooked federal officials of the IRS, FBI, CIA, NSA, BATFE, OSHA, EPA, BLM, will almost certainly solidify power over YOU and become even more tyrannical.


130 posted on 08/01/2018 7:30:43 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Lurkinanloomin
>>Obama could not have usurped the office he was not eligible to hold without the complete cooperation of BOTH parties.<<

Bingo! There are/were congressman from both sides of the aisle on intelligence committees that were privy to classified briefings on a whole host of issues...even the vetting of the office of president.

Even if Obozo was a U.S. citizen, I firmly believe his college records, passport records were sealed because he was presenting himself as a foreign born citizen to defraud the gubbamint out of funds for tuition...just a thought I'd read some time ago.

If Obozo was truly Kenyan or Indonesian...some day those records will be unsealed and the mantra at that time will be, “ See, we had a president who was foreign born and the United States didn't collapse”.

131 posted on 08/01/2018 7:39:32 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...

Civil War II Ping!
132 posted on 08/01/2018 7:41:39 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: servantboy777

He may indeed be a citizen, but he is NOT a natural born citizen even if born in Hawaii.
He was born a British subject, eligible for Kenyan citizenship upon their independence and then was an Indonesian citizen. I think he got into college and traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.

Natural born citizens have only one nationality.


133 posted on 08/01/2018 7:46:58 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Jack Black

Dems attempting to force America to accept illegals right to vote will be the trigger, IMO.

The setup is well underway.


134 posted on 08/01/2018 7:50:12 AM PDT by TADSLOS (All My Rowdy Friends Have Settled Down....)
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To: lowbuck
Once again VDH knocks the ball out of the park.

Mostly, 'bout 95-98%. But neither he, nor Rush, nor any of the other national yakkers, has gone beyound the routine comparisons between the first US *Civil War* and the storm that's brewing.

There's a much better comparison that indeed dates back to the early days of international socialism/communism, fought with Twentieth Century weaponry, and including air attacks on enemy population centers.

In four months of fighting, they killed off about 1% of their population; during the US Civil War, it took us the years between 1860-1865 to manage to knock off two percent of our fellow citizens- but in their fight, only about one death in four was a combat casualty; the rest were shot or bayonetted where they fell, put up against a motti [stack of firewood] or left to freeze or starve to death in the prison camps. Most Americans haven't a clue about what that kind of war is like.

-more-


135 posted on 08/01/2018 10:58:50 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Oh yea..I get it. I've heard/read every angle on this guy. Fact is, we won't know for absolute sure until his records are unsealed and or the conspiracy to cover all this up is broken by some insider that has proof.

Until then...plausible deniability.

136 posted on 08/01/2018 11:38:53 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: lowbuck

bump


137 posted on 08/01/2018 5:28:36 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: lowbuck

American democracy is a simple math problem, and the Political Left has decisively solved it.

Legal Immigration - 1.4 million per year

New Immigrant Citizens - 750,000 per year

Anchor Babies - 300,000 per year

Future Amnesties - Many, many millions

Most of these folks are Third World Socialists, and they vote 80% for the Democratic Party.

Every year, the Republican Party is dragged further and further to the Left by the sheer political weight of these new voters.

Trump has postponed America’s political suicide.

But we are well past the point where we can peacefully stop it.


138 posted on 08/02/2018 1:20:17 AM PDT by zeestephen
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