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Dust Bowl Economics: Trump wants taxpayers to bail out farmers hurt by his trade war.
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 11, 2018

Posted on 07/12/2018 4:59:13 AM PDT by reaganaut1

When pork prices collapsed amid a global trade war during the Great Depression, the Roosevelt Administration in 1933 had an idea—slaughter six million piglets. Put a floor under prices by destroying supply. It didn’t work. Now the Trump Administration may try its own version of Depressionomics by using the Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) to support crop prices walloped by the Trump tariffs: Hurt farmers and then put them on the government dole. How about not hurting them in the first place?

That’s the question as Mr. Trump escalates his trade war, on Wednesday proposing 10% tariffs on $200 billion in additional Chinese goods. China says it is “shocked” by the new border taxes and will look to retaliate again—and no doubt U.S. agriculture will again be one of its main targets.

Enter the forgotten but alas not gone CCC, the financial institution that FDR charged with solving the problem of depressed markets caused by weak demand. Farmers were told to plant less in exchange for a floor under prices. The CCC financed the purchase of surpluses through nonrecourse “loans” to farmers, and held the crops in storage.

When market demand improved, the Agriculture Department was supposed to sell the stored commodities at higher prices. Nonrecourse meant that the farmer didn’t have to repay the loan, and the USDA often couldn’t unload the surpluses because demand didn’t recover.

The Depression ended but the CCC kept going. In 2012 Congress put limits on CCC purchases of surplus commodities and on price supports after the Obama Administration used it for a costly 2009 disaster program without Congressional approval. But then out of the blue this year, Congress lifted the limits on CCC’s power to remove surplus crops from the market to support prices.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Editorial; Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; agriculture; canada; china; debt; election2018; election2020; farmers; farming; farmsubsidies; maga; mexico; nafta; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; pork; soybean; tariffs; trade; welfare
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To: Hostage
Why are dirt cheap pork prices a "pain"?


21 posted on 07/12/2018 5:25:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Alberta's Child

Sorry — “port roasts,” not “port roads.” LOL.


22 posted on 07/12/2018 5:26:27 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: reaganaut1

If the President can get what he wants from Putin this week, maybe Russia will be our first real free trade partner... The Left’s eyes, would pop right out over it.


23 posted on 07/12/2018 5:27:16 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Alberta's Child
"Pork roasts." LOL.

What the hell is wrong with this phone? Is it kosher or halal? It doesn't recognize the word "PORK!" LOL.

24 posted on 07/12/2018 5:27:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Now the Trump Administration may try its own version of Depressionomics by using the Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) to support crop prices walloped by the Trump tariffs: Hurt farmers and then put them on the government dole. How about not hurting them in the first place?

May. LOL.

The NO Wall Street Urinal may became a pro American news source. May.

25 posted on 07/12/2018 5:28:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: reaganaut1

The Wall St. “Editorial Board” wrote this crap.

Who is their “Editorial Board?”

They don’t make it easy to find out.

After getting past their virtue signaling garbage, a couple of names appear:

Paul A. Gigot Editor, Editorial Page, The Wall Street Journal

Daniel Henninger Deputy Editor, Editorial Page

Looking into the character of these snarlers it’s not surprising to find they are part of the liberal country club.

As for their economic credentials, they forget that economics is not a science, it is astrology, led by dismal principles.

The trade war will be won as China has no choice but to face decreasing revenue space while the American economic tree moves in and sprouts new branches.


26 posted on 07/12/2018 5:28:49 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Elsie

You have it correct.

Rather than pay the tariff on Chinese steel, purchasing agents will buy steel from India.

If China resists, they will lose much of their manufacturing base as it moves elsewhere.


27 posted on 07/12/2018 5:29:51 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: Hostage

All of them put America last.


28 posted on 07/12/2018 5:29:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va
May?

No, it's July.

29 posted on 07/12/2018 5:30:46 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va
So what? Why do I give sh!t about pig farmers, one of the biggest employers of illegal and imported stoop labor?

Because they provide your bacon and fatback? Because without ham how can there be red-eye gravy for your grits?

30 posted on 07/12/2018 5:32:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va

That’s rich coming from an AFL-CIO flack.

Labor unions suck and that means labor union supporters suck.


31 posted on 07/12/2018 5:33:41 AM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: central_va

The farmers are temporarily inconvenienced as their Chinese inflated markets are restructured.

They don’t see the bigger picture that they grew into that Chinese space while 100 times as many American producers were shut out and taken over by Chinese manipulators.


32 posted on 07/12/2018 5:34:44 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: reaganaut1

Every time the investors have a few hours to digest what any new tariffs might really mean to the economy, they start buying again. This morning, 1 hour before the market opens, the Dow Futures are up 185, NASDAQ Futures are up 39, S&P Futures are up 15 and GE is up by 12 cents a share. But it all spells doom and gloom for the US economy because of Trump...


33 posted on 07/12/2018 5:36:47 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Drango

So, what leverage would you use to remove the unethical tarrifs and governmental price controls China, Canada, Mexico and the EU put on goods from the US?

Honestly, what is your solution? The solution is to put high enoug tarrifs on them to get them to eliminate the tarrifs they have in place. I shouldn’t have to explain something that should be blatantly obvious to even a second grader to someone who has been on this board any length of time. Common freaking sense.

Trump has said if they want to get rid of all their tarrifs, we’ll get rid of ours.

We didn’t start the trade war, but are damn well going to end it.


34 posted on 07/12/2018 5:36:58 AM PDT by spacewarp (FreeRepublic, Rush's show prep since foundation.)
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To: central_va

A huge amount of the pork sold here comes from Canada. At least it did before the tariffs.


35 posted on 07/12/2018 5:38:12 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals can kiss my bitter clingers!)
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To: reaganaut1

Should not the Bolshies want this too?


36 posted on 07/12/2018 5:38:31 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (60 in '18.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Probably that ZTE phone and autocorrect.... ;) (J/K).


37 posted on 07/12/2018 5:39:24 AM PDT by spacewarp (FreeRepublic, Rush's show prep since foundation.)
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To: central_va
If the Trump administration doesn't do it, we're going to see the clocks rewind to the 1970s -- and many of those House districts in the Great Plains will be held by Democrats five years from now.
38 posted on 07/12/2018 5:39:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Oklahoma
Do you know the percentage of the private sector workforce in a union?

If you are pro American labor/working class does that make you automatically pro union?

Do you breathe through your mouth? Did you brush your tooth today?

39 posted on 07/12/2018 5:41:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: spacewarp

LOL.


40 posted on 07/12/2018 5:42:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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