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‘I’m Not a Criminal, But I’m Going to Prison for Owning a Legal Handgun in New York’
Dangerous ^ | 04/10/08 | Pawl Bazile

Posted on 04/10/2018 8:20:47 AM PDT by Simon Green

“Do you understand what it means when you have absolutely nowhere to turn?” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

Clark Camp is a slight, mild-mannered blond who has spent recent weeks preparing to be locked away in a New York state prison for the next two years.

The 29-year-old Hawaii native faces a second degree weapons possession charge, a crime that carries a mandatory five-year sentence in New York, yet Camp’s lawyer, almost miraculously, managed to have that reduced to two. Camp has no criminal record and no prior arrests.

His life changed one night in 2016. He was living in San Diego and on his way home decided to stop into a bar down the street for a nightcap. He made eyes with a girl and they struck up conversation.

“We shared a plate of nachos, some drinks, and some laughs,” Camp recalls.

A whirlwind romance ensued over the next few days. Camp, who has never had much luck with women, fell madly in love. A few days later the two set off for an overnight trip to Mexico and rented a beachside Airbnb in Baja. As she prepared to return home to Brooklyn, and their affair drew to a close, the two found themselves unable to part. The woman suggested they take a road trip back to New York and perhaps Camp ought to just stay and live with her.

He would do just that, packing a few bags and heading cross-country in April 2016. But early on there were signs that she perhaps suffered from emotional issues. And one year later, Camp came back to their apartment to find his girlfriend naked on the sofa with another man. A heated argument broke out.

In a small compartment behind the seat of his ’85 Chevrolet El Camino, Camp stored a Hi-point .45 pistol he bought legally in Ohio for $140 and that he kept locked away in a safe. When the officers found the weapon, Camp was arrested and charged with a Class C Felony.

His girlfriend had a far-left stance on guns. She said it frightened her to have one in their apartment and so Camp kept it locked safely away in the car to appease her, he explained.

“I just wanted to leave,” Camp recalled to DANGEROUS.

It was too late. The noise from the shouting attracted the attention of neighbors, who called the police. Officers interviewed Camp’s girlfriend who told them, out of spite, he says, about a weapon he had in his car.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
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To: DoodleDawg

I would disagree to an extent, though I do quite understand your point and that risk.

I would rather have it that way than this hodgepodge dog’s breakfast of contradictory and often confusing rules that got this poor guy a jail sentence.

The fact that I cannot cross a border without fear of inadvertently transgressing some dozens of different rules and regulations and ending up in jail like this guy means that whenever I travel out of state, I am unprotected. And those times on the road are times when you may have a greater need of the right to protect yourself with a firearm (being in unfamiliar places, etc.)

Sure, I could familiarize myself with my travel route, all the places I go, get the book on all of them and learn it, but...I am only human. I may forget some key factor or rule, and as this shows, the a-holes that wrote and enforce these stupid laws don’t care if they destroy an individual, as long as their political goals are achieved.

How I despise Leftism in all of its forms.


41 posted on 04/10/2018 9:40:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel; jonascord

Even what you two have said is borderline capitulation - You have shrunk down and accepted that this sort of outcome has reason. You have blamed the American for exercising his federal, country-wide constitutional right.

These laws, all of them outside of the constitution are illegal. And jail time is faced for breaking these stinking, illegal laws but that to blame him for this is ridiculous.

Your anger, as mine, should be focused squarely on the root of all of our problems - The state.

Granted, I am taking a road trip this year and I had to plan around visiting a few states (In other words, circumnavigating them) to avoid the penalty of jail. So I too have accepted this sort of crap but I’m squarely with this guy on this.

He kept bad company. He didn’t pay attention to these ridiculous laws. But Ultimately it’s his girlfriend’s fault, and the state of NY that he is going to jail.


42 posted on 04/10/2018 9:44:51 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity
It is the states fault for having such tyranical anti second amendment laws. Ill bet he never thought he would go to jail for a locked up and hidden gun he never pointed at anyone!! Otoh.. I hope he is over her.. those cluster B's are predators, she had him on a leash and knew exactly what she was doing.. Nice guys finish last for a reason.
43 posted on 04/10/2018 9:47:21 AM PDT by Ikeon (Walmart employees and unions are all socialism in action. Not everyone is worth their pay)
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To: rlmorel
The fact that I cannot cross a border without fear of inadvertently transgressing some dozens of different rules and regulations and ending up in jail like this guy means that whenever I travel out of state, I am unprotected. And those times on the road are times when you may have a greater need of the right to protect yourself with a firearm (being in unfamiliar places, etc.)

Then don't travel to states you can't conceal carry. Problem solved.

44 posted on 04/10/2018 9:48:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Sadly NY has migrated to me. They are all mad as hens. Will blow up at you for the smallest item. Yesterday, my long islander started swearing at me because I put an old bbq on the curb for pickup cy the city. I have no usable curb space without blocking mail boxes. The best part, after his tirad, he had the balls to have his wif text me his displeasure.


45 posted on 04/10/2018 9:51:17 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Iron Munro
Every day that passes that I do not read of another Carl Dregas absolutely astounds me, especially as evil as the laws of some states are.

What amazes me more is alleged 'conservatives' supporting these "laws" that are in direct contravention to the U.S. Constitution, because "the law is the law" bullshit.

46 posted on 04/10/2018 9:52:49 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Joe Boucher
No way i go to N.Y., N.J. Illinois etc. cause i might get stopped.

Adds at least several hundred miles to a trip from, say, Delaware to Vermont...you'd have to swing way west to NW Pennsylvania, go up to Canada (ferry service from PA?) and double back. Really limits your travel. In fact, it proves that old punch line, "You can't get there from here"!

47 posted on 04/10/2018 10:03:59 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

ding ding ding....

with a bit of discernment on one’s part, early in the process, this distinction can easily be determined.


48 posted on 04/10/2018 10:07:08 AM PDT by QualityMan (The Adults are back in town)
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To: JimRed
...you'd have to swing way west to NW Pennsylvania, go up to Canada (ferry service from PA?) and double back.

OOPS! Dummy me...assuming that Canada would let you transport your firearms through their territory!

49 posted on 04/10/2018 10:09:42 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Celerity
New York, for that matter, New England, is no longer part of the United States. The GOPe just doesn't want to admit it. The destruction of the Constitution continues...

As long as democrats are converting oxygen into lies, they will proceed with the conquest.

50 posted on 04/10/2018 10:10:05 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: BBell

But early on there were signs that she perhaps suffered from emotional issues......Well, she was a female.


51 posted on 04/10/2018 10:13:40 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: DoodleDawg

He wasn’t wrong. NY “commie” state is wrong.


52 posted on 04/10/2018 10:16:25 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: JimRed
OOPS! Dummy me...assuming that Canada would let you transport your firearms through their territory!

A friend and I were once detained at a Canadian border crossing for hours and threatened with jail because he had a nightstick in his trunk.

53 posted on 04/10/2018 10:20:31 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: DoodleDawg
The President cannot pardon someone convicted of a state crime.

Even though the law itself is a crime against the Constitution!

54 posted on 04/10/2018 10:43:02 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ohioman
He wasn’t wrong. NY “commie” state is wrong.

In your opinion perhaps. But in point of law New York is going to send him up the river.

55 posted on 04/10/2018 10:49:30 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ImNotLying
I dream of the day that I can carry my weapons from state to state, city to city and be legal and not have to worry about some sick law that would put me in jail.

I DO carry from state to state, city to city, including NY, NJ, DC, MD, IL etal.

I know that I am at risk if I ever have to choose between being dead from a bunch of thugs, or going to the slammer. NO CHOICE.

There is risk of just being stopped for no reason and having my butt hauled to the slammer for just carrying my legal weapon in a city/state that has violated my 2nd Amendment Rights.

If that were to happen, life is tough, and it wouldn't be fun, but it would be doable.

56 posted on 04/10/2018 10:53:32 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: JimRed
Even though the law itself is a crime against the Constitution!

Even then.

57 posted on 04/10/2018 10:55:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Erik Latranyi

No woman is worth moving to New York for... none...


58 posted on 04/10/2018 10:59:29 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: jonascord

That brings us back to the problem - how can any state in the Union (or that claims to be in) brazenly stomp on the most fundamental set of individual rights of all - those enumerated in the Constitution’s Bill of Rights?

OH - because citizens have rolled over time and again, and because courts, appointed by unconstitutional traitors have ruled in direct conflict with the “shall NOT be infringed” language.

This is the very tyranny that the founding fathers included the 2nd Amendment in anticipation of... use sayin’


59 posted on 04/10/2018 11:02:30 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: ImNotLying
Maybe under Trump that will finally happen.

Not a chance, the Senate will never put it on his desk.

60 posted on 04/10/2018 11:47:37 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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