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‘I’m Not a Criminal, But I’m Going to Prison for Owning a Legal Handgun in New York’
Dangerous ^ | 04/10/08 | Pawl Bazile

Posted on 04/10/2018 8:20:47 AM PDT by Simon Green

“Do you understand what it means when you have absolutely nowhere to turn?” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

Clark Camp is a slight, mild-mannered blond who has spent recent weeks preparing to be locked away in a New York state prison for the next two years.

The 29-year-old Hawaii native faces a second degree weapons possession charge, a crime that carries a mandatory five-year sentence in New York, yet Camp’s lawyer, almost miraculously, managed to have that reduced to two. Camp has no criminal record and no prior arrests.

His life changed one night in 2016. He was living in San Diego and on his way home decided to stop into a bar down the street for a nightcap. He made eyes with a girl and they struck up conversation.

“We shared a plate of nachos, some drinks, and some laughs,” Camp recalls.

A whirlwind romance ensued over the next few days. Camp, who has never had much luck with women, fell madly in love. A few days later the two set off for an overnight trip to Mexico and rented a beachside Airbnb in Baja. As she prepared to return home to Brooklyn, and their affair drew to a close, the two found themselves unable to part. The woman suggested they take a road trip back to New York and perhaps Camp ought to just stay and live with her.

He would do just that, packing a few bags and heading cross-country in April 2016. But early on there were signs that she perhaps suffered from emotional issues. And one year later, Camp came back to their apartment to find his girlfriend naked on the sofa with another man. A heated argument broke out.

In a small compartment behind the seat of his ’85 Chevrolet El Camino, Camp stored a Hi-point .45 pistol he bought legally in Ohio for $140 and that he kept locked away in a safe. When the officers found the weapon, Camp was arrested and charged with a Class C Felony.

His girlfriend had a far-left stance on guns. She said it frightened her to have one in their apartment and so Camp kept it locked safely away in the car to appease her, he explained.

“I just wanted to leave,” Camp recalled to DANGEROUS.

It was too late. The noise from the shouting attracted the attention of neighbors, who called the police. Officers interviewed Camp’s girlfriend who told them, out of spite, he says, about a weapon he had in his car.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; basnglist
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To: Simon Green

This is EXACTLY the kind of guy Leftist’s want to lock up in their zoo.

Good for diversity reports.


21 posted on 04/10/2018 9:04:49 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: jonascord

Cue the crazy/hot chart. We too often think with the wrong head.


22 posted on 04/10/2018 9:14:50 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Simon Green

So glad I no longer live in NY.


23 posted on 04/10/2018 9:14:55 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: rlmorel
This poor guy. First the naked unstable girl.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I suspect he knew about the unstable part for a long time and accepted it because of the naked part. That was probably a really good deal . . . until it wasn't.

24 posted on 04/10/2018 9:16:56 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Simon Green

We may not agree with it and may consider it unconstitutional but in New York State you cannot legally own a pistol unless you have a state license to own it.

The state law is known as the “Sullivan Act” and has been in effect since 1911.

Basically it is a misdemeanor to own a concealable firearm without a license and it is a felony to carry one without a license.

And it is not easy to obtain a license to own a pistol.

New York is a “may issue” state as opposed to a “shall issue state”.

So the governing law enforcement agency does not have to issue a license if they don’t want to for any reason at all.


25 posted on 04/10/2018 9:17:09 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: bk1000
Poor guy. He’s going to be popular in jail.

He should be getting schooled in the martial arts for mere survival in a New York prison. If he severely damages the first couple of thugs who try to assault him, he may escape the beatdowns and rape attempts. Then, of course, his sentence will be increased for bad behavior.

Mr. President, here is a great opportunity to do real justice with a Presidential pardon.

26 posted on 04/10/2018 9:21:27 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Simon Green

“Law enforcement” is happy. They got a conviction, and can boast about how they’re stopping crime.

Reality: they have no intention of taking guns from violent criminals, but are taking them from non-violent individuals.


27 posted on 04/10/2018 9:21:35 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left. PS. f*ck the media.)
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To: Simon Green
His lawyers expect him to spend at least two years behind bars. He calls himself a patriot who believed his Second Amendment rights where inalienable.

Well he will have two years to reflect on how wrong he was. New York's gun laws are about the strictest in the nation.

28 posted on 04/10/2018 9:21:44 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Pollster1

Love is sometimes blind to young men...I suspect she was somewhere above the crazy line, but he was unfamiliar with the Hot vs. Crazy Matrix.


29 posted on 04/10/2018 9:21:48 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: I want the USA back
Reality: they have no intention of taking guns from violent criminals, but are taking them from non-violent individuals.

From later in the article:

According to a 2013 article in the New York Times, not everyone faces prison time for these types of weapons violations. Many caught with a loaded gun in New York’s most crime-stricken neighborhoods actually never see the inside of a jail cell.

As the Times reported, as few as 31 percent of those caught with illegal weapons in the Bronx were imprisoned. The Bronx is New York’s poorest borough by median household income and has one of the highest crime rates in the nation. The predominantly black and Hispanic 16th Congressional district of the South Bronx is also the poorest Congressional District in the nation, with over 52% of residents living below the poverty line. The 16th’s violent crime rate is also among the worst in the nation, but still 69% of gun offenders in the Bronx are not put in jail, according to the Times.

Camp is not expecting to get that pass. The neighborhood where he was arrested, Williamsburg, is a rapidly gentrifying section of Brooklyn dominated by hipsters, would-be artists, and upper middle class white collar workers. Still, the neighborhood fares poorly with overall crime rates. A recent study by DNAInfo ranked Williamsburg 47th safest for per capita crime out of 69 neighborhoods surveyed.

30 posted on 04/10/2018 9:25:33 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: Iron Munro
We may not agree with it and may consider it unconstitutional but in New York State you cannot legally own a pistol unless you have a state license to own it.

Which is a problem I have with NRA, GOA and other gun rights groups. They should be balls-to-the-wall challenging these laws wherever they exist, with every penny they can muster. If they are in fact doing anything, they are not publicizing it. They have to be as in-your-face about rights as anti-gun activist are in removing our rights.

31 posted on 04/10/2018 9:29:14 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Simon Green

That’s what happens when one sinks to going after a left-wing gal for her lady parts......


32 posted on 04/10/2018 9:29:42 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: ImNotLying
I dream of the day that I can carry my weapons from state to state, city to city and be legal and not have to worry about some sick law that would put me in jail. Maybe under Trump that will finally happen.

Be careful of what you wish for. If Congress can say that states cannot control gun ownership within their borders then that same Congress can say they can regulate gun ownership within the entire country. Are you willing to trust some future Democrat congress with that?

The same powers that allow New York to be hyper-strict on gun ownership allows Missouri to be far more reasonable. I'd like to keep it that way.

33 posted on 04/10/2018 9:31:49 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Simon Green
The neighborhood where he was arrested, Williamsburg, is a rapidly gentrifying section of Brooklyn dominated by hipsters, would-be artists, and upper middle class white collar workers.

Didn't Williamsburg used to be dominated by an Orthodox Jewish community?

34 posted on 04/10/2018 9:32:04 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Celerity

There shouldn’t be any humor in this thread, but guys will nervously laugh at this the same way they nervously laugh at some poor guy who gets hit in the stones with a softball.

It is human nature.

This guy made a mistake about two things: The company he keeps, and the concept of traveling with a weapon. He apparently was not given the opportunity to learn from his mistake about the company he keeps. Many of us do get to learn without going to jail. He didn’t get that opportunity.

But if anyone owns a weapon in this country, it is absolutely essential before he ever purchases it that he knows exactly what can legally be done with it and where it can legally be taken, and under what conditions or restrictions.

That is simple self preservation, and in this environment of gun ownership, essential.

I think it is wrong. I think it is a crime that I live in a country where I am allowed to exercise my Constitutional rights one way in one state, but if I drive two miles and cross over a border into a neighboring state, I may end up in prison for two years and branded as a felon for exercising my Constitutional rights in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.

That is wrong. We all know it, but that is reality.


35 posted on 04/10/2018 9:32:40 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Simon Green
Camp is not expecting to get that pass.

Maybe he needs a better lawyer?

36 posted on 04/10/2018 9:34:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: JimRed
They should be balls-to-the-wall challenging these laws wherever they exist, with every penny they can muster.

I'm sure the NRA is fighting the battles they think they can win.

37 posted on 04/10/2018 9:35:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Simon Green

I have a NRA sticker on my cars and RV.
No way i go to N.Y., N.J. Illinois etc. cause i might get stopped.
I have a CCW and Always have a pistol in my vehicle.
Not going to any state that won’t let me defend myself of family.
I Will not spend a penny in such states.
Hell with anything they might have to see.


38 posted on 04/10/2018 9:36:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Criminals at F.B.I., Justice Dept, I.R.S and No one taken out in cuffs? Federal gub mint is crappola)
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To: JimRed
Mr. President, here is a great opportunity to do real justice with a Presidential pardon.

The President cannot pardon someone convicted of a state crime.

39 posted on 04/10/2018 9:40:22 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Pollster1
The dude just got red pilled. I'm sure a dozen youtube videos on MGTOw would not have changed his mind, he's 1) from left leaning Hawaii, 2) He's obviously got self esteem issues, 3) She is a cluster B mercenary 4) The vajayjay, he gave up common sense to the vajayjay.. Seen it, done it , The only cure is to have your wallet torn out thru your penis. and this man just did. Nod to Robin Williams... on a good note, She didn't get preggos while he was hitting it..( not that
at it would be his) and she wont be hauling him around by his wallet after this.
40 posted on 04/10/2018 9:40:43 AM PDT by Ikeon (Walmart employees and unions are all socialism in action. Not everyone is worth their pay)
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