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Finally, someone with half a brain and common sense.

And Oh BTW, the feds can never legally “erase” the 2nd Amendment.

The only way to change the 2nd Amendment is through the constitutional amendment process. Otherwise, the 2nd Amendment stays intact and all attempts to ignore or violate the 2nd Amendment should be met with the full force of law.

Also, I’m against repealing the 2nd Amendment, but repealing it wouldn’t do a freaking thing unless there was also a new amendment authorizing the feds to regulate gun ownership. The 2nd Amendment only confirms the pre-existence of rights expressed in the Declaration of Independence and presumed in the Constitution. Our right to bear arms exists and is constitutionally protected with or without the 2nd Amendment.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Article [II] (Amendment 2 – Bearing Arms)

Notice the right to bear arms in the 2nd Amendment along with the other unalienable rights in the first ten amendments are PRE-EXISTING RIGHTS that are God-given, not man or government given. 2nd Amendment says the feds cannot "INFRINGE" on the pre-existing right to bear arms. The first ten amendments including the 2nd do NOT grant rights. They merely REMIND government not to violate those rights. Totalitarian governments "grant" rights. A free people know their rights come from God and know they cannot be separated from those rights.

1 posted on 02/22/2018 7:18:45 AM PST by Jim W N
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And they can’t say teachers are incompetent to carry guns.


2 posted on 02/22/2018 7:22:45 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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This has been an idea I’ve thought was a good one for years.

Only the school administration and local police would know the identities of teachers who are authorized to conceal carry.

They would have to get initial training and follow on training every year before the school year started to include a mental examination by a qualified shrink.

Their ability to conceal carry at school would be pulled if it’s deemed they have depression issues or life crisis type of issues such as bitter divorce etc...

If they got their conceal carry in school privs pulled, that doesn’t mean that their state conceal carry privs would be pulled. Two separate issues and would be up to the states to decide things like that.


3 posted on 02/22/2018 7:25:05 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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It is done in Israel.


5 posted on 02/22/2018 7:26:44 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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Don’t ban bump stocks. If you must, grandfather the existing ones.


6 posted on 02/22/2018 7:27:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing 14 times in a row.)
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The fakestream enemedia complex will violently oppose this because they know it will work and then the issue will be dead.


8 posted on 02/22/2018 7:28:13 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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There is a law on the books that needs to be rescinded:

... the bill that then-Sen. Joe Biden introduced in Congress 28 years ago that made it illegal for weapons to be carried in schools.

Known as the Gun-Free School Zones Act and signed into law in November of 1990, the bill “prohibits any person from knowingly possessing a firearm … at a place the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone,” ..


9 posted on 02/22/2018 7:28:28 AM PST by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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I never said 'give teachers guns'

Why not?

It's part of the solution.

You do want a solution, don't you, Don?

10 posted on 02/22/2018 7:30:54 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Hey, Rocky--Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!)
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I agree with the proposals set forth by President Trump in that statement (even if the bump-stock ban won’t have much of a practical effect), *except* for raising the age to purchase weapons to 21. That’s a silly, knee-jerk reaction to the fact that the school shooter in FL was 19 years old when he purchased a weapon. There are hundreds of thousands of responsible gun owners between the ages of 18 and 20 in this country, many of whom serve int he military. Why would we want to prohibit soldiers from purchasing a rifle?

President Trump hit a home run with his call to arm teachers and coaches that have undergone weapons training and to emphasize mental health in background checks. I hope that he reconsiders his proposal to increase the minimum age for gun purchases.


13 posted on 02/22/2018 7:39:23 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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A teacher who is carrying would command respect that would transfer to other teachers as well.


14 posted on 02/22/2018 7:39:37 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust Sessions. The Great Awakening is at hand...MAGA!)
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A colorable argument can be made that the Right to Keep and Bear Arms exists even when the government says it does not, seeing as this right is God-given and beyond the scope of mankind's reach.

That's when things get really sticky, but that doesn't diminish the truth of it.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

15 posted on 02/22/2018 7:40:06 AM PST by Joe Brower (Nothing is more terrifying than ignorance in action. Particulary when that ignorance is cultivated.)
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Its enough that potential shooters will know that schools are no longer “gun free zones.” When was the last time a “mass” shooting took place in a police station?


16 posted on 02/22/2018 7:44:41 AM PST by bruoz
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Poor Donald. He thinks the media will make fine distinctions. Broad brushed smears are their forte.


17 posted on 02/22/2018 7:46:45 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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Let the DEMS win in 2020 and see what happens to the SC. They can magically find a way to say killing unborns is there they can find a way to remove the 2d Amendment.


24 posted on 02/22/2018 7:59:44 AM PST by pas
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Sane people have always said that schools need a resource officer (real POST, armed, uniformed, works for the police department cop) AND some trained concealed carriers. This is what the simunition simulations say is your best shot. Lots of people have offered to train teachers for free. The liberals have fought very hard against this and honestly the blood is on THEIR hands for fighting against school safety.

Sure raise the age to buy most guns to 21. We already said they can’t be trusted with pistols alcohol and rental cars. But raise the voting age too. Anyone who, for any reason, can’t be trusted with a semi rifle, is not trustworthy enough to vote.

I am, like everyone, very concerned about the concept of gov regulating rate of fire of gun parts that might tend to increase it but NFA, like it or not, is the law and bump-stocks violate the spirit of the law. If Trump or DOJ or congress or someone issued the guidance that the term “trigger pull” in NFA means conscious and purposeful voluntary movement of your finger in order to move the trigger then BATFE could say a bump stock or similar device is NFA.


25 posted on 02/22/2018 8:01:26 AM PST by thorvaldr
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A. F. T.


28 posted on 02/22/2018 8:05:39 AM PST by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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Not a federal issue. This has always been an option for the states.


29 posted on 02/22/2018 8:06:40 AM PST by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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with an emphasis on Mental Health.

LOCK THEM UP!

LOCK THEM UP!

LOCK THEM UP!

LOCK THEM UP!

30 posted on 02/22/2018 8:06:57 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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I’m not so sure that arming teachers is a good idea. Since most teachers are dhimmiecrats and a good number of those are flat out marxists arming them may be a danger to conservative students. Consider the fact that most of these mass murderers have also been dhimmiecrats and marxists.

On Greg Gutfeld’s show last Saturday Tyrus had one of the best ideas I have heard. Hire returning Veterans to guard the schools which will put their training to good use. We have “Sky Marshals”, why not “School Marshals”?


32 posted on 02/22/2018 8:09:05 AM PST by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows what's right and he keeps on coming.)
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“possibility of giving concealed guns to gun adept teachers w/ military or special training”

I disagree with this. Teachers have enough problems teaching without having to worry about securing a gun in the classroom and worrying about liability. HIRE PROFESSIONALS for school security. Fund it from teacher’s paychecks.


41 posted on 02/22/2018 8:35:38 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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The NRA should offer free teacher gun education. Watch the left go insane.


43 posted on 02/22/2018 8:53:52 AM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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