Posted on 01/26/2018 1:04:07 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
We are in a time of the first ever mass conversions of Muslims,” Father Mitch Pacwa SJ told me in a phone interview. “God is doing a mighty work among them.”
Pacwa said that mass conversions are happening even in very fundamentalist countries. There is rapidly growing number of conversions especially on the edges of the Muslim world in the western and southern parts of Africa, he said. “Africa is now growing predominantly Christian despite crackdowns,” Pacwa said.
Some of the noteworthy countries he mentioned include Iran, reported to have 3 million Christians, and Indonesia with reports of 2 million a year converting.
“In Mongolia, the president opened the country to Christians and there’s even an archbishop,” Pacwa said. “They built a Catholic school there too. If I was younger, I would have gone.” He said that the desire for a Western education was the impetus to open up the country to the Catholic Church.
There are even conversions happening in many strict Muslim countries, according to Pacwa. He did not want to go on record with particulars for fear of increased retribution. Mass conversions are also being reported among refugees that are filling up the Christian churches left empty by Europeans. Many wonder if those are authentic conversions or just a response to improving their chances for amnesty, but time will tell.
Signs of this conversion are showing up in the U.S. too, Pacwa said. “I was about to celebrate Mass at a Maronite church in San Diego and I said hi to a man who introduced himself as Achmad. I asked if he was a Christian. He said: ‘Yes, I was recently baptized.’ He said he from Morocco. Christians do not have the name Ahmad—that’s a form of Mohammad.”
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“It is said that there is no saint in
heaven who did not have a loving
devotion to the Blessed Mother.
People say all kinds of silly, unScriptural things.
This is one more.
Shooting at your allies, especially those of a different orthodoxy, is a stupid formula guaranteed to lose the bigger fight. Read up sometime on how Andrew Jackson put together an odd-coalition of army regulars, pirates, wild frontiersmen and half-breeds to deliver a major @$$ whipping to the invaders at New Orleans.
"This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."-Jesus
1. No proof of your view in the passage - meaning that there is no evidence it was a literal event. No blood dripping, no chunks of flesh being gnawed. Just bread and wine, as at every passover meal.
2. No proof that there is a sacrifice occurring in the future.
3. Just the simple words of the Savior, "Do this in remembrance of me."
Yeah; why?
Have we wandered totally away from the title of this thread already?
It’s a Trap!
#2 was gone before I got to read it; But I'd say from the initial post, that Catholicism was gaining the new Christians that were formerly Muslim.
Considering that both religious organizations are basically top-down driven; I'd assume the new converts would more easily accept a Catholic worldview than a Protestant one; which is more aligned with greater autonomy for the individual.
Well; Texans have "Remember the Alamo!!!" and Protestants have "Remember the Iron Maiden!!!".
Yes indeedy!
Although I am sorta glad that Catholicism has stopped it's bashing, rending, boiling and burning of Protestants.
"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."
--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)
Perhaps you need to research this a bit more.
As is well known, John Paul didn’t celebrate his own birthday of May 18, but rather his “name day” on November 4, the feast of St. Charles Borromeo, after whom he was named “Karol.” On this day in 1984 the Pope once again calls his Mother the “Co-redemptrix” in a general audience:
To Our Lady—the Coredemptrix—St. Charles turned with singularly revealing accents. Commenting on the loss of the twelve-year-old Jesus in the Temple, he reconstructed the interior dialogue that could have run between the Mother and the Son, and he added, “You will endure much greater sorrows, O blessed Mother, and you will continue to live; but life will be for you a thousand times more bitter than death. You will see your innocent Son handed over into the hands of sinners . . . You will see him brutally crucified between thieves; you will see his holy side pierced by the cruel thrust of a lance; finally, you will see the blood that you gave him spilling. And nevertheless you will not be able to die!” (From the homily delivered in the Cathedral of Milan the Sunday after the Epiphany, 1584). (3)
The next usage of the Co-redemptrix title by John Paul is his most important. At a Marian sanctuary in Guayaquil, Ecuador, on January 31, 1985, he delivers a homily in which he professes the Co-redemptrix title within a penetrating theological commentary of scriptural and conciliar teaching on Coredemption:
Mary goes before us and accompanies us. The silent journey that begins with her Immaculate Conception and passes through the “yes” of Nazareth, which makes her the Mother of God, finds on Calvary a particularly important moment. There also, accepting and assisting at the sacrifice of her son, Mary is the dawn of Redemption; . . . Crucified spiritually with her crucified son (cf. Gal. 2:20), she contemplated with heroic love the death of her God, she “lovingly consented to the immolation of this Victim which she herself had brought forth” (Lumen Gentium, 58) . . . .
In fact, at Calvary she united herself with the sacrifice of her Son that led to the foundation of the Church; her maternal heart shared to the very depths the will of Christ “to gather into one all the dispersed children of God” (Jn. 11:52). Having suffered for the Church, Mary deserved to become the Mother of all the disciples of her Son, the Mother of their unity . . . . The Gospels do not tell us of an appearance of the risen Christ to Mary. Nevertheless, as she was in a special way close to the Cross of her Son, she also had to have a privileged experience of his Resurrection. In fact, Mary’s role as Coredemptrix did not cease with the glorification of her Son. (4)
Only a few months later, John Paul confirms once again the legitimacy of Co-redemptrix. On Palm Sunday, during World Youth Day, the he addresses his “favorites,” his beloved youth, and invokes the aid of Mary under the title of “the Co-redemptrix”:
At the Angelus hour on this Palm Sunday, which the Liturgy calls also the Sunday of the Lord’s Passion, our thoughts run to Mary, immersed in the mystery of an immeasurable sorrow.
Mary accompanied her divine Son in the most discreet concealment, pondering everything in the depths of her heart. On Calvary, at the foot of the Cross, in the vastness and in the depth of her maternal sacrifice, she had John, the youngest Apostle, beside her . . . .
May Mary our Protectress, the Co-redemptrix, to whom we offer our prayer with great outpouring, make our desire generously correspond to the desire of the Redeemer. (6)
In commemorating the sixth centenary of the canonization of St. Bridget of Sweden (October 6, 1991), the John Paul uses “Co-redemptrix” as a title and role understood by this fourteenth century mystic whose revelations did so much to stimulate the medieval development of the doctrine:
Birgitta looked to Mary as her model and support in the various moments of her life. She spoke energetically about the divine privilege of Mary’s Immaculate Conception. She contemplated her astonishing mission as Mother of the Saviour. She invoked her as the Immaculate Conception, Our Lady of Sorrows, and Coredemptrix, exalting Mary’s singular role in the history of salvation and the life of the Christian people. (8)
http://www.fifthmariandogma.com/articles/881/
I've heard of seven that were DEFINITELY Roman.
I think John wrote some messages to them.
They exemplified the Pure, Apostalic; straight from Christ; teaching that Rome claims to have NEVER changed.
Maybe we could visit them someday for Sunday School.
Can ya put the satin ones in the washer?
OMG!
It HAS been about that long now!!
Gotcha beat by a month!
If it weren't for Nicea, the Mormon's would have to have a different strawman to pick apart.
Though it IS a bit unusual that when a Mormon is presented the NC; one precept at a time and asked to point out just what is so wrong with it; they cannot do it.They ONLY know that old JS said something about creeds and that has been good enough for them nigh onto almost two centuries now.
Beats having it RIPPED out with tongs!
Call no man father.
AH...
Brotherly love seen at it’s finest!
Don’t you know that only CATHOLICS are Christians, i.e., those who believe only what ROME has interpreted for them?
--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary)
Pope John Paul never mandated that Catholics believe Mary to be a Co-Redemtrix... there was talk of it during his papacy that even garnered a cover on Time magazine, but the Church decided against it, and the pope’s own statements are ex-cathedra.
If you want to know what the Catholic Church teaches and believes there is only one official source and that is The Catechism of the Catholic Church... perhaps you are the one with a bit more reading to do...
Find me where in the Catechism it uses the term Co-Redemptrix when referring to the holy mother and then your argument may have some gravitas.
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