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Sorry, Charlie, Perverts Are Not Society’s Fault
Townhall.com ^ | Nov 26, 2017 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 11/25/2017 11:20:23 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

There’s a neat little trick the liberals who’ve been outed as sexual predators have been attempting that is designed to absolve themselves of some of the guilt associated with their actions – blaming everyone.

I’m not talking about blaming the victims, that is still something reserved for conservative women. No, I’m talking about blaming society for their actions.

When Charlie Rose was exposed for exposing himself to women who worked for him, he did what has become the non-apology apology for his own actions and smeared his shame across the whole country. It’s the confessional equivalent of the “I’m sorry if you were offended” trope that has become all the rage with people who have large, insincere apologies to give.

“I have learned a great deal as a result of these events, and I hope others will too,” Rose wrote in his statement. “All of us, including me, are coming to a newer and deeper recognition of the pain caused by conduct in the past, and have a profound new respect for women and their lives.”

Sorry, Charlie, but it wasn’t “all of us” who were dropping our pants and parading in front of those women, that was you. And the rest of us don’t need “a profound new respect for women and their lives,” we’ve always had it.

You don’t get to pin this the rest of us, this was you and your ideological ilk who’ve been publicly professing your feminism while treating women like receptacles.

It wasn’t society that celebrated Hugh Hefner’s life when he passed, it was progressive writers and journalists who labeled that dirty old man some sort of champion for anything other than refusal to grow up. When Larry Flynt assumes room temperature I’m sure the same people will eulogize him as some kind of hero for free speech or women’s rights as well. He does, after all, target conservatives, which is all that is required to have liberals overlook any hypocrisy or depravity.

And that’s the real problem. Society isn’t at fault, liberalism is.

Liberalism allows its practitioners a pass for transgressions they’d otherwise decry.

Alec Baldwin can scream an anti-gay slur on the streets of New York because he’s not a homophobe. Al Franken can grab women’s butts or forcibly kiss a woman and grope her while she sleeps because he’s pro-abortion and abhors sexual harassment. It’s different when they do it.

It’s not a sign of societal ill that these guys don’t recognize their own hypocrisy, it’s a sign of their arrogance.

Harvey Weinstein didn’t attend the so-called “Women’s March” because he cared about the “cause” or even because he felt guilty about what he’d done, he was scoping chicks.

The world view of these “progressive” men has been so distorted by the echo chamber they live in and the media willing to ignore their actions that they became what they are, society had nothing to do with it.

No normal person thinks, “I really like this woman. Maybe I should strip naked and walk around her. That will totally work.” Or, “I’ll just really lay a kiss on her when she’s not expecting or wanting it, that’ll turn her on.” No, that’s not society fault, that’s on you.

The “everybody does it” defense is a wildly popular one among elementary school children because it makes some degree of sense to the mind of a child. Adults are supposed to know better, to know that an individual’s actions are the responsibility of that individual. Somehow, these papered primadonnas escaped this lesson, likely because their fame and money insulated them from it and isolated them in a world of like-minded people.

Whatever the case, their ignorance is their problem. They should not be allowed to shift it and any of the blame for their actions on to anyone else.

Society does not accept that sort of behavior, liberalism does.

Write a song about your stable of “hoes” and it’s cool because you perform at fundraisers for Democrats. Upgrade to a new 19-year-old lingerie model every three months and it’s all good because you tweet about how people need to reduce their carbon footprint from the cabin of your private jet.

Hypocrisy is not the exclusive domain of the political left, but it is their natural environment. The rest of society had nothing to do with it.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 11/25/2017 11:20:23 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

And yet... and yet... don’t the same conservatives who in one breath deny the role of any kind of social fault in the conduct of those who carry out sexual perversion, in another breath decry social movements that encourage embarking upon sexual perversion? Why decry them if the problem is solely that of the persons who embark upon the perversion?

“It ain’t that simple.”

We need to have a heart as well as perspicacious eyes. Warn people not to embrace sin, but also being willing to help counter social attitudes that encourage the embracing of sin. “Where sin abounded, grace superabounded.”


2 posted on 11/25/2017 11:25:05 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Guys like Rose and Franken aren’t sorry at all. They’re just trying to change our minds.


3 posted on 11/25/2017 11:54:09 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Same way that Roosevelt’s internment of the Japanese was “America’s Shame.”


4 posted on 11/26/2017 12:15:20 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
“...blaming the victims, that is still something reserved for conservative women.” He lost me at this snarky remark. It’s probably his underlying message and it’s not true. There are people (men and women) who call themselves conservative who are judgmental, that’s where any truth to this ends As a conservative woman, let me say this. In a family of five girls, there are a few rare stories of perv victimhood. One occurred during a ski weekend when the escort/date saw the behavior, stopped it. After it got reported to our brother he went to the perv with threats my father, a Marine, said “what the hell was she doing going away with those jerks?” We we’re led by example to avoid situations. At work, in military uniform, was harassed by a perverted officer. Just doing my job, creepy guy is at fault. The men in our family are taught to be gentlemen. Which is why, in travels in my military career, when I’m out at night unescorted, as soon as happy hour turns to post-crud sloppiness, I️ recognize non-gentlemanliness, assess it for what it is and split with friends for the movies or dinner. We’re out of there How much is it the victims fault? How much is it the poor upbringing of the offender? Is it at work,? Is it out late, drunkenness, immodesty? Drunkenness? There are many factors. To say that conservative women blame the victim is shallow. Conservatism is common sense. Common sense applied to these cases, will always blame the offender. To wat extent the victim tempted the offender is an assessment made for the purpose of avoiding certain situations as the case may be, and not to apply guilt or moral superiority. Common sense which, in its judgmental tone, this article lacks
5 posted on 11/26/2017 1:21:42 AM PST by stanne
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“...blaming the victims, that is still something reserved for conservative women.”

He lost me at this snarky remark. It’s probably his underlying message and it’s not true.

There are people (men and women) who call themselves conservative who are judgmental, that’s where any truth to this ends

As a conservative woman, let me say this. In a family of five girls, there are a few rare stories of perv victimhood. One occurred during a ski weekend when the escort/date saw the behavior, stopped it. After it got reported to our brother he went to the perv with threats

My father, a Marine, said “what the hell was she doing going away skiing with those jerks?” We we’re led by example to avoid situations.

At work, in military uniform, was harassed by a perverted officer. Just doing my job, creepy guy is at fault.

The men in our family are taught to be gentlemen. There’s that part of being a conservative woman.

Which is why, in my military career, when out at night unescorted, as soon as happy hour turned to post-crud sloppiness, recognizing non-gentlemanliness, split the scene with friends for the movies or dinner.

How much is it the victims fault? How much is it the poor upbringing of the offender? Is it at work,? Is it out at night intoxication involved? immodesty? There are many factors.

To say that conservative women blame the victim is shallow. Conservatism is common sense. Common sense applied to these cases, will always blame the offender for not properly living in society.

To what extent the victim tempted the offender is an assessment made for the purpose of avoiding certain situations as the case may be, and teaching the youth we are in charge of

It is not done in order to apply guilt or moral superiority.

Common sense, which, this article, in its judgmental tone, lacks.


6 posted on 11/26/2017 1:33:19 AM PST by stanne
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Sorry, Charlie, but it wasn’t “all of us” who were dropping our pants and parading in front of those women, that was you.


7 posted on 11/26/2017 2:12:11 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It wasn’t society that celebrated Hugh Hefner’s life when he passed, it was progressive writers and journalists who labeled that dirty old man some sort of champion for anything other than refusal to grow up.


8 posted on 11/26/2017 2:12:43 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Liberalism allows its practitioners a pass for transgressions they’d otherwise decry.


9 posted on 11/26/2017 2:14:13 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: stanne
Oh great! NOW you put paragraphs in after I went blind reading the no paragraph one.

My lawyers will be in touch.

p.s. good post.

10 posted on 11/26/2017 2:16:03 AM PST by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

When he was parading around NUDE, I would have called the MENTAL HOSPITAL to come and pick him up!! What woman wants to see a NAKED man walking around?


11 posted on 11/26/2017 2:32:36 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Charlie just needs to follow the liberal playbook, check into rehab now, and everything will be fine.


12 posted on 11/26/2017 2:43:10 AM PST by Will88
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To: stanne

Boy, did you misconstrue his point. He meant that the media and progressives can still blame conservative women victims.


13 posted on 11/26/2017 3:18:27 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The left created the sexual revolution. Then they accused conservatives such as Clarence Thomas of participating in it. Now they are getting tangled up in their own net. Payback is a b___h.


14 posted on 11/26/2017 3:26:14 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: raybbr

Yes, that is how I understood the comment about conservative women as well. It is the conservative females who are blamed by liberals, rather than the perpetrators.

Peach


15 posted on 11/26/2017 3:33:53 AM PST by CarolinaPeach
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Sorry, Charlie, but it wasn’t “all of us” who were dropping our pants and parading in front of those women, that was you. And the rest of us don’t need “a profound new respect for women and their lives,” we’ve always had it.

Nice. Calling out liberals for the liars, cowards, and creeps that they are...

16 posted on 11/26/2017 4:00:05 AM PST by GOPJ (https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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To: All

THE MONEY QUOTE: Society does not accept that sort of behavior, liberalism does.


17 posted on 11/26/2017 4:00:50 AM PST by Liz (Liberals are incapable of governing or practicing journalism in a normal American way.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Perverts like Rose, Frankin, and MILO are the personifications of the strategic goals of the Frankfurt School’s Cultural Marxism.

[The Architects of Western Decline:
A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]
https://vid.me/UoQm#17m10s


18 posted on 11/26/2017 4:16:10 AM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: bagster
Ugh. Do not know what happened there I️ wrote it in paragraphs and it came out like that You’re a sport for suffering through. Appreciate the positive review. Conservative women have feelings too.
19 posted on 11/26/2017 4:42:21 AM PST by stanne
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“Harvey Weinstein didn’t attend the so-called “Women’s March” because he cared about the “cause” or even because he felt guilty about what he’d done, he was scoping chick.”

If that’s true, he was wasting his time...at least that was the case when I was in college.


20 posted on 11/26/2017 4:57:32 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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