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No guilty verdicts reached in Bunkerville ranch standoff (BREAKING NEWS!!!)
Associated Press via 13 Action News ^ | August 22, 2017

Posted on 08/22/2017 4:27:36 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Edited on 08/22/2017 5:59:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

LAS VEGAS (AP) - A federal jury in Las Vegas has refused to convict four accused gunmen in a 2014 standoff with federal authorities near the Nevada ranch of anti-government figure Cliven Bundy.

In a verdict that stunned Bundy supporters, the jury on Tuesday acquitted Ricky Lovelien and Steven Stewart of all 10 charges against them.


(Excerpt) Read more at ktnv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: bundy; bundyranch; bunkervilleranch; bunkervilletrial
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To: vette6387; TChris; All
Love me some Matt Shea
101 posted on 08/22/2017 5:30:22 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: generally

As the skeletons come out of the closets and the rats leave the ship there will be a mad rush to be the one getting an immunity deal.


102 posted on 08/22/2017 5:30:35 PM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: generally

As the skeletons come out of the closets and the rats leave the ship there will be a mad rush to be the one getting an immunity deal.


103 posted on 08/22/2017 5:30:53 PM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: TChris
However, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Do we want armed protests to become the standard? When the left feels particularly passionate about their side, and they do, are we OK with them bringing weapons?

I take it you hold the view that the 2nd Amendment should be subject to "reasonable" limitations such as who, where and when an American can exercise his right government sanctioned privilege to bear arms.

104 posted on 08/22/2017 5:32:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: vette6387; erkelly; ExTexasRedhead

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>> “ranch standoff (BREAKING NEWS!!!), vette6387 wrote:
“There is no reason whatsoever for the fed govt to own these lands. Let the people who use them have them!”

All the Western States are “owned” largely by the Fed Gov...” <<

But that does not include surface use or water rights!

Those were already 100% in private ownership when the treaty was signed.
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105 posted on 08/22/2017 5:33:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TChris

“Since the real problem was a political one, that’s where our efforts should be focused, not on threatening LEOs.”

Do you understand that the armed BLM started the confrontation showing up in their MRAPs killing Bundys cattle? The “cowboys” here were the BLM, and they are damned lucky they didn’t end up in body bags as a result of their behavior. In the end, then knew they were going to get dead if they fired a single shot in the direction of the citizens, so they left.


106 posted on 08/22/2017 5:34:33 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: TChris

I think he meant the Federal Government Cattle Rustlers.


107 posted on 08/22/2017 5:36:22 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: TChris

A long time ago, BLM agents weren’t armed, and conducted business professionally. They looked and acted like Hank the county agricultural agent. Look at the photos of that standoff with the Bundy family.
Theses post-9/11 weaponized BLMs showed up in swat gear, desert tan BDUs, AR-15s, army helmets, and more than a few were sporting tacticool “wish is was a special forces guy” beards and oakleys.

They showed up looking like they were prowling for a fight. They got the response they deserved. They were going for intimidation and they ran into people who stood tall. This is a good day.


108 posted on 08/22/2017 5:36:52 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hhate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: TigersEye
I take it you hold the view that the 2nd Amendment should be subject to "reasonable" limitations such as who, where and when an American can exercise his right government sanctioned privilege to bear arms.

You take it wrong.

Go play with your straw man somewhere else.

109 posted on 08/22/2017 5:37:50 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: JayGalt

A real man speaks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-dlnW8aRfc


110 posted on 08/22/2017 5:38:03 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: editor-surveyor

“All the Western States are “owned” largely by the Fed Gov...” <<

But that does not include surface use or water rights!

Those were already 100% in private ownership when the treaty was signed.”

The problem is the BLM doesn’t seem to understand any of what you say. Western ranchers are up to their eyeballs with the BLM, and I will bet that some of them are going to die if they don’t put away their guns, or better still, have them taken away.


111 posted on 08/22/2017 5:38:18 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: TChris

Yes it has happened to others, but this time Americans said “enough”. The federal government denied him due process and started rounding up and killing his cattle. These are not your ordinary people. These are people who have waked out a living in God Awful conditions for generation.

I get it that you can’t understand this, but these guys winning is a serious win for America


112 posted on 08/22/2017 5:38:35 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TChris
"Happens EVERY DAY to various business owners. Should they all mount armed protests?"

When faced with tyranny some men bow down and lick the hands that feed them. And some don't.

"As bad as it sucks, and as unjust as it is, are we calling for a shooting war against federal police every time a family's livelihood is threatened by the government?"

We know what your answer to that question is. A better question might be, at what point, if any, would you resist an overbearing Federal government? I'd be very interested in hearing your answer to that question.
113 posted on 08/22/2017 5:39:54 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Donnafrflorida
Do you know ANYTHING ABOUT THIS STORY????

I know, right? Amazed.

114 posted on 08/22/2017 5:39:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Jarhead9297

“What was done is no different than BLM protesting without a permit (which I too find to be unconstitutional)”

Protesting doesn’t require a permit sport. Maybe you can show us in the constitution where a permit is required for speech. Be careful with that... soon we will be the ones needing to protest. I do not agree that without a permit you must not protest.


115 posted on 08/22/2017 5:39:59 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hhate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: TChris

” Should fee hikes just result in armed standoffs from now on?”

Review Boston Tea Party.


116 posted on 08/22/2017 5:41:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hhate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: DesertRhino
Theses post-9/11 weaponized BLMs showed up in swat gear, desert tan BDUs, AR-15s, army helmets, and more than a few were sporting tacticool “wish is was a special forces guy” beards and oakleys.

I heartily agree that the "every department gets its own heavily-armed police" thing is insane. But that's beside the point, I think.

Whether and to what degree the feds were armed doesn't really change the question of whether the Bundys should have been armed in this case. I personally think it was a bad decision on their part.

117 posted on 08/22/2017 5:41:13 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris
So this is our goal then?

30,000 militia, and tons of oathkeepers, along with quite a few elected reps from the west all agreed with the action that was taken that day.

If you would take the time to read and educate yourself perhaps you would understand.

If you don't care about the constitution, then you might be a troll.

118 posted on 08/22/2017 5:43:17 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: TChris
Perhaps you should read more carefully. They failed to pay grazing fees. There was no rustling.

Whoa you better back up , The BLM tried to sell some of the cattle though local sales but no sale barn would take them

119 posted on 08/22/2017 5:43:43 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: txhurl

And the desert tortoise too. Must be endangered, yeah, that’s the ticket.


120 posted on 08/22/2017 5:44:23 PM PDT by MarMema
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