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1 posted on 04/08/2017 2:11:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Like it or hate it, IMO this necessary. Chronically ill, high maintenance patients need to be extracted from the general population in terms of insurance coverage.


2 posted on 04/08/2017 2:16:18 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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“The federal pool, which would be funded with $15 billion, would be replaced by individual state-run high-risk pools in 2020. “

I’m not sure actually, that the GOP should at all start to pare back that fund.

Really.

Sure, remove the feds from otherwise covering things, but as for the portion of insurance which others will not cover, I think it would be a BIG mistake, to try to remove coverage from anyone.

I am frankly, very puzzled by how many are opposed to this. It seems very basic, to me.

If someone can not get coverage elsewhere, the government should absolutely, step in.

100%.


3 posted on 04/08/2017 2:16:41 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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“The federal pool, which would be funded with $15 billion, would be replaced by individual state-run high-risk pools in 2020.”

Wouldn’t the states just funnel those people into Medicaid?


6 posted on 04/08/2017 2:22:43 PM PDT by MaxistheBest (...)
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ok lyin ryan: first, give us the whole bill to read, with time to read it.

as for the bill, two provisions are necessary to keep your gop promise (the rest is upto you):

1. a complete repeal ala mo brooks/steve king as a first page in the bill and

2. anything you force on us, you and your gope cronies are also required to receive, in full.


7 posted on 04/08/2017 2:23:29 PM PDT by dadfly
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Republicans are witless.


9 posted on 04/08/2017 2:26:08 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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If Pres. Trump CONTINUES to support Soros and Gorelick
through his son in law, and CONTINUES to deny repealing
ObamaCARE through theliar-Ryan, his supporters
will be evanescent.


10 posted on 04/08/2017 2:27:56 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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A federal high risk pool is the only solution. It’s the only way to keep the cost of insurance and medications in line.


13 posted on 04/08/2017 2:28:42 PM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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Like it or not there is going to be some sort of a USG-run healthcare system or component of the healthcare system. Trump promised as much when he was running where he said something to the effect that “We are going to take care of everybody!”. This probably the does the least violence to “medical market forces” of the USG -oriented proposals.
It’s still doomed to failure in the long run as is everything that is socialistic.


14 posted on 04/08/2017 2:29:07 PM PDT by Reily
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It’s the only way to do it.

It’s not “insurance” if you cover pre-existing conditions. At that point it’s just a slush fund.

Create a high-risk pool and call it what it is... welfare.

http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/citizens/ann_barnhardt_on_health_c.php


17 posted on 04/08/2017 2:31:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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Simply allow insurance companies to legally offer health insurance to individuals.

Keep ObamaCare, and in time it will become the high risk pool, and it can be subsided as need be.


18 posted on 04/08/2017 2:32:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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Socialism sucks.


19 posted on 04/08/2017 2:34:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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This is not only insane, it is unconstitutional. I guess that latter aspect is no longer up for debate.


25 posted on 04/08/2017 2:46:00 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him); Charles Martel for President)
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Minnesota had this before Obamacare.. and we just passed it again...


34 posted on 04/08/2017 3:04:52 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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If true, how tone deaf are they ?


40 posted on 04/08/2017 3:16:40 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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This is a potential game changing idea. Purists will not like it, but in the real world, it needs to be taken seriously.
49 posted on 04/08/2017 3:40:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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It seems to me that many if not most people with UN-insurable pre-existing conditions if they to continue to be untreated, would not be able to work and would be disabled and qualified for SS disability.

Wouldn’t that cover most of them?


50 posted on 04/08/2017 3:41:16 PM PDT by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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If true, quit the charade and just go single payer for all. That’s exactly what this will become.

There are only two solutions that work (in theory):

1. A Universal pool of insureds spreads the risk optimally. Of course, the gov involvement overlays huge administrative inefficiencies. In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.

2. A completely free market. Suppliers and consumers meet to negotiate coverages and prices and self assemble to effect contracts that work. This is hard work, but allows for experimentation and creativity. Short term potential for growing pains and horror stories, but also an optimal solution for freedom, since no one is forced to participate at the point of a gun.

For the past 50 years, we have been sliding from option 2 toward option 1 due to propaganda that makes all illnesses not our own fault. If we cannot or will not return to scenario 2, then just stop and fully embrace 1. At least then we can stand up a black market for those of us who are willing and able to pay for efficient care.


52 posted on 04/08/2017 3:45:58 PM PDT by neonovanglus
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Democrat President Jared Kushner gave us ...

o Obamacare 2.0

o TPP returning again

o Trash talk Bannon

o Global Warming returning

o Soros bribes & cheap loans

Hey Ivanka, your husband is a political disaster. All because you both want acceptance and conformity with your rich liberal social circle.

Are you both really that insecure emotionally??


55 posted on 04/08/2017 4:02:39 PM PDT by TheNext (Individual Mandate V.S. Individual Health Savings account HSA - YES)
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Why does the feds need to be involved? Just block-grant the money, along with Medicare/Medicaid, to the states completely and let the states work out deals with private health insurers to insure those with pre-existing conditions.


56 posted on 04/08/2017 4:04:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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“House Republicans propose federal high-risk pool in bid to jump-start Obamacare replacement bill”

Without requiring (pass legislation) that the thieving leftist hospital administrators and quacks post prices for all medical procedures, the free market can’t assume control of medical care.

Insurance sure as hell won’t do it.

The government taking control won’t work.

What is the dollar price to walk into every hospital or doctor’s office to look at a rash on an arm?

How many dollars to deliver a baby?

What does it cost, in exact dollars, for bypass surgery?

Every hospital and doctor knows the price of all medical care down to the penny, as evidenced by bills received by patients across the country.

Post those prices!


57 posted on 04/08/2017 4:04:35 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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