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Susan Rice's Domestic Spying is a National security Nightmare
Townhall.com ^ | April 6, 2017 | Mark Davis

Posted on 04/06/2017 4:33:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

What a fitting cherry atop the Barack Obama legacy of eroding American safety: it turns out his National Security advisor was rifling through countless conversations that just happened to involve private citizens, in a quest to block Donald Trump’s path to the presidency.

I know Susan Rice’s story is that sure, there was unmasking but she in no way leaked details in an attempt to harm Trump. We can all evaluate how credible that is, coming from a woman who lied about Benghazi in service to an administration that mobilized the IRS against conservatives. But as we prepare for her testimony under oath about these matters, we must realize that political mischief is not the worst element of this story.

The fact is that if Susan Rice and others in the Obama White House were vacuuming up every piece of intel they could find about the Trump team and Russia (or anybody else for that matter), the election-year dirty tricks pale in comparison to the profound damage these stunts would inflict on our entire national security landscape.

Has anyone noticed that President Trump inherited a shockingly dangerous world? Energized by eight years of Obama inattention, the Syrian government is gassing its own citizenry while North Korea hones the skill set to lob a warhead beyond its own territorial waters. It is at times like these that we need maximum trust in the heroes toiling in the mines of detailed surveillance. Since 9/11, countless Americans have racked up equally countless hours looking for connections among quintillions of little data dots representing moments of behavior that might be a gateway to the discovery of the next terror attack.

Those of us who support those practices have had to push back against the skepticism of voices who believe that surveillance by the NSA, CIA and others is a privacy nightmare, featuring layers of incursions into our personal business.

No, we have insisted, these professionals deserve to be trusted. Nobody at NSA headquarters is listening to you plan a vacation visit to your Aunt Ruth.

Libertarians and others have maintained some hostility to the surveillance that keeps us safe, arguing that the trade-off is not worth it, that surely government cannot be trusted with such a task indefinitely.

And now we get this.

The Susan Rice fishing expedition in search of dirt on Trump impugns no Americans involved in the daily toil of watching the world for signs of danger. But it surely creates a fog of doubt around the politicians who have access to those mountains of intel.

This is a lousy time for erosion of faith in the hierarchy we will need moving forward to monitor what the Assads and Kims and other murderous despots around the world might have in mind for America and our allies. Anything that makes Americans turn sour on intelligence-gathering is an obstacle to a safer nation.

We can cling to the comfort that Obama is no longer President, and that Rice can no longer do his bidding. But once we learn the lengths and depths of her malicious curiosities, the damage may well be done, in the form of Americans who flip a switch and harbor broad doubts about whether surveillance and monitoring are worth it if private citizens are going to be unmasked, their names leaked to newspapers on a partisan whim.

We may enjoy an administration that will not abuse those powers for the next four or eight years, but who knows what will follow? We are eternally one election away from the re-installation of scoundrels who will view intel as free customized opposition research during election years.

The noble Americans who work every day to keep us safe deserve our respect and our trust. And they deserve better than to have that trust skewered by this infuriating story of a White House that viewed them as weapons to be deployed against political enemies.


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To: fastrock

As I recall there was something unusual about his adoption of his children.

I made comment on a different thread that Hillary stole the FBI files back when Bildabest was press and used them to further the agenda.

This Susan Rice debacle is an extension of the globalist agenda.

What was not anticipated by that faction was that Trump would actually get elected.

Now the same intelligence that they used against citizens is available to outsider.
Not only available but to someone who is incredibly intelligent and surrounds himself with intelligent people.

Trump may not be the the staunch conservative that everyone hoped.

He also is not a swamp dweller, which is causing great consternation in the swamp, as it should.

What is very apparent is that he loves his country, and his countrymen. Something that has been lacking in the last decade.


21 posted on 04/06/2017 5:36:11 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Kaslin

How much of the motivation for the illegal surveilling of Trump and his inner circle during the campaign was to find out what Trump really knew about Hillary?

What are the odds that the Obama regime was surveilling all the republican candidates from the early days of the campaign? Especially the major candidates like Jeb (who they thought would be the candidate) Ted Cruz, etc.

What are the odds that they were surveilling all the Trump inner circle once he moved into the lead and won the nomination?

What are the odds that they were suveilled all of President Trump’s cabinet nominees and other possible appointees - like Judge Gorsuch?

What are the odds they surveilled all the republican senators and major congressmen over the 8 years of Obama?

What are the odds the Obama crime syndicate has dirt on some of the people they surveilled and are still using it today?

That would help explain why the senate and congress let Obama walk all over them for 8 years.


22 posted on 04/06/2017 5:38:52 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best long term prep for conservatives: Have big families & out-breed the illegals & muslims.)
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To: bert
This extends up to and includes Barack Obama. I suspect he knows this and is presently in exile

Someone will get tired of picking up the tab for Zero's extended vacation in Tahiti.

23 posted on 04/06/2017 5:39:00 AM PDT by ptsal
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To: fastrock
Post #16

so what did the Obama admin surveillance find about SC Justice Roberts?

Exactly! Roberts turned on a dime. What is the real backstory?

24 posted on 04/06/2017 5:41:42 AM PDT by ptsal
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To: Kaslin

The more that comes out about this past election, the more convinced I am that it was, (to quote George Washington) “PROVIDENCE”.

With everything that was arrayed against him, what else could explain his victory?


25 posted on 04/06/2017 5:42:46 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Nailbiter
As I recall there was something unusual about his adoption of his children.

I don't know the details but it had something to do with moving the birth mothers from Ireland to Brazil where they gave birth, then making the legal adoption in Brazil.


26 posted on 04/06/2017 5:43:52 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best long term prep for conservatives: Have big families & out-breed the illegals & muslims.)
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To: Nailbiter
What is very apparent is that he loves his country, and his countrymen. Something that has been lacking in the last decade.

Bears repeating. Obama, and Hillary, viewed the American citizenry with contempt. We were a necessary nuisance to be tolerated in the attainment and exercise of power.

27 posted on 04/06/2017 5:48:20 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Obama, and Hillary, viewed the American citizenry with contempt

Not only contempt but with disdain as they raped on financial rewards, we were rubes to finance their agenda, may they burn in hell


28 posted on 04/06/2017 5:50:52 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: fastrock

Obama found out Robert’s children were adopted illegally and threatened to have them sent back to their country of origin.


29 posted on 04/06/2017 6:06:20 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We got more than we voted for!)
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To: Common Sense 101; Kaslin

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A little late to the party as usual... ight years late.
Can’t believe that this is coming from an asshat who could never bring himself to admit that O-hole hated this country and attempting to destroy it, and even went as far as chastising his dwindling listener base when they stated it on air.
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You\we can’t place the blame directly at the feet of Zero.

If not for the (R), we would not have the NSA, TSA, Patriot Act, etc. and millions+ more illegal alien invaders.

Zero used the tools supplied to him. Yet, we’re all aghast they were used, not created.


30 posted on 04/06/2017 6:12:11 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Kaslin

She is in deep dung, up to her eyeballs.

She will plead the 5th if summoned to testify.

Make her do it, a hundred times if necessary, in front of cameras and therefor the nation and world.

Let the people see what kind of evil the Obama Administration really was.

It’s going to be a long, hot summer in DC..........................


31 posted on 04/06/2017 6:12:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: Kaslin

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Those of us who support those practices have had to push back against the skepticism of voices who believe that surveillance by the NSA, CIA and others is a privacy nightmare, featuring layers of incursions into our personal business.

No, we have insisted, these professionals deserve to be trusted. Nobody at NSA headquarters is listening to you plan a vacation visit to your Aunt Ruth.

Libertarians and others have maintained some hostility to the surveillance that keeps us safe, arguing that the trade-off is not worth it, that surely government cannot be trusted with such a task indefinitely.

And now we get this.
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Yep, them ‘kooky’ (L) again....proven right (again).

Amazing the ‘issue(s)\problem(s)’ that get “*SOLVED*” by following the Constitution.

Not like the majority-(R) think along this same stream, THEY created the NSA, TSA, Patriot Act, etc.


32 posted on 04/06/2017 6:16:11 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Obama and Hillary viewed the American citizenry with contempt. We were a necessary nuisance to be tolerated in the attainment and exercise of power.

Textbook definition of the sociopath.

33 posted on 04/06/2017 6:20:13 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: CaptainMorgantown
Yes, most Americans who work for the NSA, FBI, and CIA are good people who are working to protect our safety.

And that is irrelevant, as in the minds of most Americans they are now the KGB. Ed Snowden may as well come home. His fan base is growing, and likely no jury will now convict him.

It turns out Frank Church was probably right, Damn him!


34 posted on 04/06/2017 6:24:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bert

.. executed for crimes against the Republic

Yep.


35 posted on 04/06/2017 6:24:45 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t understand why this woman hasn’t been arrested.


36 posted on 04/06/2017 6:33:57 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: CaptainMorgantown

“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
John Harington


37 posted on 04/06/2017 6:40:18 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: All
Even more startling to realize:

Boobamba and Rice's constant surveillance probably unveiled ample evidence about Muslim plans to come to the US to infiltrate and overthrow the US govt and kill Christians.

Yet, knowing this, Boobamba launched a major "refugee project" to resettle thousands of Muslims in US communities, foisting rabid Christian-hating terrorists, criminals, torturers, beheaders on unsuspecting US citizens.

Boobabma made sure the criminal refugees boarded the US gravy train and received every freebie imaginable PLUS a cash stipend of 21,000 tax dollars upon arrival (from the U.S. Office of Refugee Resettlement, a part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services).

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Obama ignored the concerns of state governors and began delivering violent Third World malcontents, en masse to almost every state in the US, a steady stream of Somali, Syrian, Afghan, Iraqi and Burmese Muslims.....not to mention the Central America crowd rife with communicable diseases..

Even diseased Third world refugees who committed crimes were welcomed into the US from Muslim Afghanistan, Algeria, Burundi, Cape Verde, China, Cuba, Eritrea, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, India, Iran, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Libya, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, and Zimbabwe.

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ACTION NOW---Contact your Representative and Senators
Capitol Switchboard 1-866-220-0044

38 posted on 04/06/2017 6:41:47 AM PDT by Liz
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To: petercooper

“Trump is disciplined.”

Notice how he’s moved all the really important meetings to Mar-A-Lago, a far more secure location than the WH or Camp David. Indeed, it looks like the WH and Camp David are being used for mostly ceremonial events while Mar-A-Lago is the genuinely secure place where he does most of the real work.


39 posted on 04/06/2017 6:42:48 AM PDT by libstripper (nd)
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To: atc23

DIdn’t stop him from being the president for 8 years though. The only way to take that back is to find a time machine and go back to 2008 and hope for different results.


40 posted on 04/06/2017 6:55:59 AM PDT by Blue Highway (Q)
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