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Susan Rice's Domestic Spying is a National security Nightmare
Townhall.com ^ | April 6, 2017 | Mark Davis

Posted on 04/06/2017 4:33:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

What a fitting cherry atop the Barack Obama legacy of eroding American safety: it turns out his National Security advisor was rifling through countless conversations that just happened to involve private citizens, in a quest to block Donald Trump’s path to the presidency.

I know Susan Rice’s story is that sure, there was unmasking but she in no way leaked details in an attempt to harm Trump. We can all evaluate how credible that is, coming from a woman who lied about Benghazi in service to an administration that mobilized the IRS against conservatives. But as we prepare for her testimony under oath about these matters, we must realize that political mischief is not the worst element of this story.

The fact is that if Susan Rice and others in the Obama White House were vacuuming up every piece of intel they could find about the Trump team and Russia (or anybody else for that matter), the election-year dirty tricks pale in comparison to the profound damage these stunts would inflict on our entire national security landscape.

Has anyone noticed that President Trump inherited a shockingly dangerous world? Energized by eight years of Obama inattention, the Syrian government is gassing its own citizenry while North Korea hones the skill set to lob a warhead beyond its own territorial waters. It is at times like these that we need maximum trust in the heroes toiling in the mines of detailed surveillance. Since 9/11, countless Americans have racked up equally countless hours looking for connections among quintillions of little data dots representing moments of behavior that might be a gateway to the discovery of the next terror attack.

Those of us who support those practices have had to push back against the skepticism of voices who believe that surveillance by the NSA, CIA and others is a privacy nightmare, featuring layers of incursions into our personal business.

No, we have insisted, these professionals deserve to be trusted. Nobody at NSA headquarters is listening to you plan a vacation visit to your Aunt Ruth.

Libertarians and others have maintained some hostility to the surveillance that keeps us safe, arguing that the trade-off is not worth it, that surely government cannot be trusted with such a task indefinitely.

And now we get this.

The Susan Rice fishing expedition in search of dirt on Trump impugns no Americans involved in the daily toil of watching the world for signs of danger. But it surely creates a fog of doubt around the politicians who have access to those mountains of intel.

This is a lousy time for erosion of faith in the hierarchy we will need moving forward to monitor what the Assads and Kims and other murderous despots around the world might have in mind for America and our allies. Anything that makes Americans turn sour on intelligence-gathering is an obstacle to a safer nation.

We can cling to the comfort that Obama is no longer President, and that Rice can no longer do his bidding. But once we learn the lengths and depths of her malicious curiosities, the damage may well be done, in the form of Americans who flip a switch and harbor broad doubts about whether surveillance and monitoring are worth it if private citizens are going to be unmasked, their names leaked to newspapers on a partisan whim.

We may enjoy an administration that will not abuse those powers for the next four or eight years, but who knows what will follow? We are eternally one election away from the re-installation of scoundrels who will view intel as free customized opposition research during election years.

The noble Americans who work every day to keep us safe deserve our respect and our trust. And they deserve better than to have that trust skewered by this infuriating story of a White House that viewed them as weapons to be deployed against political enemies.


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1 posted on 04/06/2017 4:33:23 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

A little late to the party as usual... ight years late.
Can’t believe that this is coming from an asshat who could never bring himself to admit that O-hole hated this country and attempting to destroy it, and even went as far as chastising his dwindling listener base when they stated it on air.


2 posted on 04/06/2017 4:42:46 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: Kaslin

Yes, most Americans who work for the NSA, FBI, and CIA are good people who are working to protect our safety.

But where were the resignations these past eight years? Where were the whistleblowers? In the end, the folks carrying out this work did as they were told. No one had the courage to stand up and say ‘no’.

Even now, 3 months into the Trump Administration, where are the people who carried out these orders coming forward with all of the details of what there units did?

No one wants to give up their career or pension.


3 posted on 04/06/2017 4:44:17 AM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: Kaslin

Just imagine if Mrs Xlinton had actuality won the election. None of this would be known


4 posted on 04/06/2017 4:46:03 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: Kaslin

Hillary Rodham Clinton - The Legacy of Barack Husain Obama


5 posted on 04/06/2017 4:49:17 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Kaslin

6 posted on 04/06/2017 4:53:32 AM PDT by Bon mots (Laughing at liberal tears!)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

“The noble Americans who work every day to keep us safe deserve our respect and our trust. And they deserve better than to have that trust skewered by this infuriating story of a White House that viewed them as weapons to be deployed against political enemies”.

...if I recall, there was a purge by order of Obama himself, of information and people related to radical Islamic terrorism, that cut deep into those noble Amercans spoken of in the quote above.


7 posted on 04/06/2017 4:58:52 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and. the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
But where were the resignations these past eight years? Where were the whistleblowers? In the end, the folks carrying out this work did as they were told. No one had the courage to stand up and say ‘no’.

Even now, 3 months into the Trump Administration, where are the people who carried out these orders coming forward with all of the details of what there units did?

No one wants to give up their career or pension.


To do so would invite personal ruin, and maybe loss of life. Think about it. Easier said than done.
8 posted on 04/06/2017 4:59:55 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Parroting fake news is highly profitable for some.)
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To: Kaslin

The tendency is to extrapolate to the ridiculous.

I would argue that a covert group of dedicated operatives acted within the CIA boundaries using CIA tools to obtain the intelligence desired by the White House. The CIA group likely acted in concert with other such groups in NSA and perhaps DIA etc

That is to say, the CIA is not guilty. The criminals are actually few and determinable. They were first and foremost in the White House and acting on White House orders. All must be ferreted out and destroyed...... executed for crimes against the Republic. There is no acceptable defense for their actions.

This extends up to and includes Barack Obama. I suspect he knows this and is presently in exile


9 posted on 04/06/2017 5:02:12 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: Bon mots

He was never the president. He is a foreign subject ineligible to hold that office


10 posted on 04/06/2017 5:04:42 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
To do so would invite personal ruin, and maybe loss of life. Think about it. Easier said than done.

Oh, boo hoo! They took an oath to serve their country. They accepted all the pay and benefits but weaseled when actually called upon to do the right thing.

Shame on them.

11 posted on 04/06/2017 5:07:42 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Kaslin

Mark Davis doesn’t strike me as particularly bright or as bringing anything of value to the issues of the times.


12 posted on 04/06/2017 5:11:01 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Kaslin
Trump is disciplined. You can bet he told his team from early on in the primaries, that they were most likely being surveilled. The Dems had only the NBC tape, and that was it. They were listening for more, but got nuthin on nobody!. Ha ha. Ultimate fail.
13 posted on 04/06/2017 5:11:46 AM PDT by petercooper (Why don't polls ever add up to 100%?)
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To: bert
Excellent point.

I do hope that that arrogant pos former occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave will eventually brought to justice.

14 posted on 04/06/2017 5:14:19 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: Kaslin


15 posted on 04/06/2017 5:14:21 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best long term prep for conservatives: Have big families & out-breed the illegals & muslims.)
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To: petercooper

Chief Justice John Roberts deems ACA/ObamaCare is NOT a tax, so what did the Obama admin surveillance find about SC Justice Roberts?


16 posted on 04/06/2017 5:16:00 AM PDT by fastrock (It is never right to do wrong, even if sanctioned by law. - Abe Lincoln)
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To: atc23

“Just imagine if Mrs Xlinton had actuality won the election. None of this would be known”

Good points in all posts but “none of this would be known” is in some measure scary, sobering and true. Beyond “if” is the certainty that Her Nibs would have throttled up on even more egregious shenanigans.


17 posted on 04/06/2017 5:18:17 AM PDT by Huaynero
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Bump


18 posted on 04/06/2017 5:21:50 AM PDT by Guenevere (If my people......will humble themselves and pray and seek my face .....I will heal their land...)
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To: fastrock

They found out that Justice Roberts and his wife circumvented some laws and pulled a number of strings to adopt their two children, then threatened Justice Roberts with the loss of his children.


19 posted on 04/06/2017 5:22:59 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Common Sense 101
the Syrian government is gassing its own citizenry

Given the downside for Assad of this, it is questionable whether he actually perpetrated this act. If so, he is most assuredly a goner, and Trump would be in his rights to nuke Damascus just for the perfidiousness of the act, which is why one has reasonable doubt that it actually happened this way.

20 posted on 04/06/2017 5:23:32 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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