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If one Jewish state has contributed so much to science, imagine the impact that 40 Jewish states could have on global science.
1 posted on 01/16/2017 6:57:13 AM PST by pinochet
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Is Israel’s birthrate due to Jews or Palestinians? In past articles, I’ve read that the Jews will be outnumbered by Palestinians in a couple decades.


2 posted on 01/16/2017 6:59:31 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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Christians only need live up to teachings of Christ to “save” civilization.

Pretending the cultural deviation defines the faith is wrong.


4 posted on 01/16/2017 7:06:05 AM PST by G Larry (Pretending Podesta's e-mail are "The American Election System" is nonsense.)
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Oooooh boy, this is going to be a doozy.


5 posted on 01/16/2017 7:06:20 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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Depends on the type of Jew that Europeans converted to.

If it is to the leftist version that votes ‘Rat, or of the Israeli leftist mode, then no. Perhaps it would accelerate the downfall.

OTOH, if it was a more observant, or at least conservative (my perspective) point of view, then yes...


6 posted on 01/16/2017 7:06:51 AM PST by C210N
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Indeed it would.

Leftists hate intellect and success.

Which is why they have always hated Jews.

Nope, I’m not a Jew.


7 posted on 01/16/2017 7:07:05 AM PST by Da Coyote
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And how many discoverers of deadly diseases were murdered in concentration camps? People pray for medical miracles and G-d says “I sent you people who would do that but you killed them”.


9 posted on 01/16/2017 7:10:00 AM PST by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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“If one Jewish state has contributed so much to science, imagine the impact that 40 Jewish states could have on global science.”

1) Science is not civilization. It is a byproduct of it.

2) Europe has done more for science than Israel ever could.

3) What Israel has done for science is because of Western style education. A Jewish brain might have more potential than that of many Gentiles, but if all he has to work with is the Talmud, then there won’t be any scientific advancement.

4) For Western Civilization to be saved Western countries must rediscover what made them great. The answer isn’t Judaism for any of them.


10 posted on 01/16/2017 7:11:43 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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Politically incorrect to state but the story of Western Civilization is the story of Caucasians. As Caucasians embraced birth control and abortion their civilization began to decline and transform. Blacks despite overt racism still wish to live among Caucasians because they know their lives will be better.


11 posted on 01/16/2017 7:12:14 AM PST by allendale
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The Plague of Islam

If the civilized world is to survive, Islam must be understood for what it really is: It’s not a religion, form of government, or anything recognizable to the civilized mind. Islam is a disease, an incurable disease of the mind that is highly contagious among the feeble minded and is now spreading among the world’s feeble minded at an epidemic rate. As with any disease, one can’t reason with this disease, negotiate with it, or treat in a manner other than how one would treat any other incurable disease.

As past efforts to contain this disease have failed, carriers of this Plague of Islam must be eradicated wherever they're found, for if they're not, this disease could eventually end not just Western Civilization, but it could undo over 5,000 years of human civilization.

13 posted on 01/16/2017 7:14:11 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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Invalid assumption. Assuming that Christianity includes an irreversible tendency towards cultural suicide, which it does not.
Also, assuming that Judaism always includes a resistance to cultural suicide.
It’s not about the religion. It’s about the self-worth and resistance to outside forces that are trying to destroy us.


14 posted on 01/16/2017 7:15:53 AM PST by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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If they converted to the sect of Judaism created by the Jew Yeshua, whose followers believe Him to be The Meshiach, then, yes.


15 posted on 01/16/2017 7:16:29 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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You do realize the ‘heaviest’ word in the whole of the Bible is ‘if’? How many times was it Written? How many times did Moses pen that word IF?


16 posted on 01/16/2017 7:17:39 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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Israel is the only country in the Western world, where birth rates are above the replacement level of 2 children per woman.

I *certainly* could be wrong here but it's my understanding that the birthrate among Jewish women in Israel is due substantially to the birthrate of the "ultra orthodox" women...the ones whose husbands,I've seen it written,do nothing but study the Torah all day rather than earn a living. I've seen it written that these "ultra orthodox" are of great concern to the government for several reasons,one being the amount of state benefits they get.

Of course those who are familiar with current day Israel are free to set me straight if I'm wrong.

17 posted on 01/16/2017 7:19:13 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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The issue is not Judaism. Liberal Jews in the US have a below replacement birth rate, while conservatives have above replacement rate.
The issue is liberal religious or atheist views versus conservative religious views.
Conservative Christians have a higher birth rate, about 30% higher, than liberal Christians.


18 posted on 01/16/2017 7:20:51 AM PST by tbw2
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Such silliness...

Europe can be saved by simply converting back to Christ...


20 posted on 01/16/2017 7:21:53 AM PST by Popman
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Europe has always hated Jews and been enamored of muslims, for whatever God-forsaken reason.


22 posted on 01/16/2017 7:29:08 AM PST by onedoug
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There are so many strange assumptions in this piece that I wouldn't even know where to begin.

1. For one thing, what exactly is "Judaism" as a culture? I think of it as a religion, and since it is an anachronistic religion (from a Christian perspective) then why would anyone in Europe who is interested in preserving a Christian culture go out and convert to Judaism?

2. As others have pointed out, you are making a gross assumption that Christian nations have an inevitable death wish that results in their decline. I'd also point out that many Europeans are perfectly OK with their culture (however they define that) dying -- as long as they don't have any discomfort and difficulty while it happens. If anything, I'd suggest that Israel is almost identical to Europe in its secular, leftist mindset.

3. What is the ultimate end of science, in today's world?

23 posted on 01/16/2017 7:29:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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The purpose of religion is not to create or sustain a civilization or to produce scientists or Nobel Prize winners. Its one and only purpose is to be true.

Whatever happens to "western civilization," by acknowledging the truth of Judaism not only the "west," but the entire world, would be rescued and brought to G-d. Conversion to Judaism is not necessary and is in fact discouraged. All that is required of non-Jews is that they accept and abide by the Seven Noachide Laws, which I have been attempting to witness to on this forum for going on eighteen years now.

Anyone interested should contact an authentic Orthodox Jewish rabbi to learn about these Laws and make the transition. While at one time this would have been impossible for most of humanity the Internet leaves most people today without excuse.

24 posted on 01/16/2017 7:35:50 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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It may have been better if they had not help kill the Jews off in the first place, European culture ended in 1941 when France joined in with the extermination.


26 posted on 01/16/2017 7:42:56 AM PST by Jolla
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To me that is a false premise. Conversely, if Europe converted to Islam, they’d be having 3-5 children. And suicide bombers galore.


28 posted on 01/16/2017 7:43:56 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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