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1 posted on 12/16/2016 9:22:35 AM PST by ColdOne
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The substantial argument has always been about the magnitude, though even then there arise questions about margins of error.


2 posted on 12/16/2016 9:26:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Lots of corps did this to fend off the looters.


3 posted on 12/16/2016 9:28:08 AM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 16 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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Under what sort of duress? Big businesses either play ball or end up with lawsuit upon lawsuit and direct attacks from governments. Of course, that matters not to the concern trolls out there.

I hear that if a concern troll decides to

Donate to FR

he ends up feeling a bit better right off the bat.

4 posted on 12/16/2016 9:28:23 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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All oil CEOs had to hide their true feelings and say things that helped their companies avoid persecution by Obama.


5 posted on 12/16/2016 9:28:44 AM PST by impimp
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He will take whatever course TRUMP tells him to take..thats his job as Secretary of State...


9 posted on 12/16/2016 9:30:51 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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More Fake news from The Hill. Facts in the article don't match the spin being put on it by Soro's proapganda bots.

Tillerson nonetheless disagrees with environmentalists’ views that fighting climate change means using less fossil fuels. Instead, Exxon looks at solutions like replacing coal with natural gas — which the company produces — and adapting to the effects of a changing world.

10 posted on 12/16/2016 9:30:57 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Trump discriminates against non-successful people.)
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Keep in mind what the strategy may have been here. By a huge energy company embracing “alternative” and “renewable” energy sources, this kind of takes away the wind that the environmentalists hopes to direct their way. This is to head off future protests and defuse (or confuse) the small minority of shareholders that are the most vociferous in their demands that Exxon “does something” about climate change. Once Exxon takes charge of “alternative” and “renewable” energy, and applies their vast research capabilities to either actually find something that is economically feasible, or bury it so deeply the issue dies of old age, it is taken off the table for the time being.


14 posted on 12/16/2016 9:34:57 AM PST by alloysteel (It is OK to use the greeting "Merry Christmas" again. Happy birthday, Jesus!)
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Why would Exxon/Mobil oppose AGW? They make more money soaking the consumer for government-mandated super-greenie-tree-hugging-environmental-ethanol-infused-special-formulations of fuel than they would otherwise.

If your margin remains the same yet the product costs twice as much due to regulation, does that help or hurt the bottom line?


17 posted on 12/16/2016 9:42:40 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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Don’t get too excited about the posturing before the poker game begins.

There may be an opening to get China and India to clean up their dirty coal.

You don’t need to believe in the fraud of AGW to understand that would be a good thing.


23 posted on 12/16/2016 9:50:09 AM PST by G Larry (America now has the opportunity to return to God.)
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The leftists in the US have declared war on any means of energy production. The oil companies are just one of many moving targets. “Global warming/climate change” dogma of the left is the weapon of choice for them.

At the end of the day, all of this has absolutely nothing to do with “global warming/climate change”.

It has everything to do with leftists attempting to take total control of energy production in the US. THAT is their goal, nothing less.

If you control the energy production, you control the country.


25 posted on 12/16/2016 9:51:27 AM PST by factoryrat (We reserve the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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Wow. This guy is sounding more like a real lemon each day.


31 posted on 12/16/2016 10:06:49 AM PST by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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The article is stupid and disingenuous. Exxon was facing the Obama Spanish Inquisition. Either repent or be put into the iron maiden.

Can ExxonMobil Be Found Liable for Misleading the Public on Climate Change?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-07/will-exxonmobil-have-to-pay-for-misleading-the-public-on-climate-change

Exxon Sues a Second Attorney General Off Climate Fraud Probehttps://insideclimatenews.org/news/16062016/exxon-sues-massachusetts-attorney-general-climate-change-fraud-investigation

Exxon Mobil Investigated for Possible Climate Change Lies by New York Attorney General
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/science/exxon-mobil-under-investigation-in-new-york-over-climate-statements.html?_r=0


32 posted on 12/16/2016 10:11:42 AM PST by Rebelbase (ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/PBS/CNN/FOX are THE LEGACY MEDIA)
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human activity was the source of carbon dioxide emissions contributing to the phenomenon

The part in bold is true. There's no question the current rise in CO2 is not natural. There are people who point to CO2 following warming: http://joannenova.com.au/global-warming-2/ice-core-graph/ which is definitely true. But the key fact is that the CO2 follows warming to the tune of about 10 ppm per 1 degree of warming. The charts in the link show about 100 ppm rise or fall for 10 degrees rise or fall. The current rise in CO2 is 120 ppm since the 1800's. That means in the past 800 years or so there should have been 12C rise in deep ocean temperatures to produce all that CO2. There was not so that theory fails.

Another explanation is increased volcanic activity. There was probably more recent volcanic activity in the 80's and 90's helping to create a little more CO2 along with temporary cooling from stratospheric SO2. But each major volcano amounted to 1/100 of man's CO2. Also it doesn't seem likely that volcanic activity suddenly increased coincidentally with CO2 when 20,000 years of Greenland ice cores with annual resolution shows no other such coincidence.

Finally, CO2 could be increasing due to algae reductions and deforestation. There is a fudge factor added to the "official" manmade CO2 source for deforestation. That is unfortunate since it clouds the measurements. The rest of manmade CO2 in the official manmade sources are more clear: fossil fuel burning and cement making. Those are well measured thanks to industry economic data.

37 posted on 12/16/2016 10:33:22 AM PST by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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Oh no that’s it Trump is algore with a tan! I should have known that talk about what a fake and fraud global warming it was just a show biz trick. mark Levin is right! PLEEEEEEZE!


41 posted on 12/16/2016 2:13:16 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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