Posted on 12/16/2016 9:22:35 AM PST by ColdOne
“Thinking Conservatives” is that the new term the Soros PR bots around here are giving themselves these days?
Why the change? What happens to your self applied “true convservative” and “movement conservative” labels? No one buying the lie anymore so you had to try out a new false flag?
You raise an interesting point. Man's impact on the atmosphere is not zero. The larger point is that man's impact on the atmosphere is insignificant compared to all the other factors.
Don’t get too excited about the posturing before the poker game begins.
There may be an opening to get China and India to clean up their dirty coal.
You don’t need to believe in the fraud of AGW to understand that would be a good thing.
Gee a CEO says “yeah you know because of all this global warming stuff you all believing in, you all should be buying more of my stuff (Natural Gas) and less of that nasty global warming causing coal my competitor is selling you.”
And as usual the Soro PR bots around here are clutching their pearl and having fainting fits over it.
The accusation was that Tillerson’s veer toward global warming support was Obama related and that is patently false. Obama was not POTUS in 2007.
Seems to me Tillerson was willing to adopt any position to make Exxon money. Will he apply those same amoral standards as Secretary of State? Let’s hope not. Feel free to continue blindly cheering on the Chamber of Amnesty’s trojan horse but I won’t be. Sometimes you jut have to call a spade a spade because nothing good will come from having more Chamber/globalist influence in Trump’s cabinet.
The leftists in the US have declared war on any means of energy production. The oil companies are just one of many moving targets. “Global warming/climate change” dogma of the left is the weapon of choice for them.
At the end of the day, all of this has absolutely nothing to do with “global warming/climate change”.
It has everything to do with leftists attempting to take total control of energy production in the US. THAT is their goal, nothing less.
If you control the energy production, you control the country.
He will take whatever course TRUMP tells him to take..thats his job as Secretary of State...
Don’t kid yourself. He will be formulating policy and Chamber of Commerce lobbyists will have access to the highest levels of sausage making in the Trump admin.
You just going to name call? LOL.
So why are the Chamber of Commerce types so thrilled with the Tillerson pick? You really think they have our best interest at heart? Buy a clue, FRiend.
Sorry your complete lack of rationality and hysteric bile laced ranting expose you as a standard issue Soros bot.
Real Conservatives think. Fake one, like yourself, away expose themselves by their habitual use of the standard issue Ad Homine debate tactic of the poltical Leftist.
Sorry Soros bot. No one around here is interested in the drivel your master is trying to push.
Hilarious. All you an do is name call.
Actually, so far I am generally happy with Trump outside of the Tillerson pick and the reports of the new “White House Office of the First Family”. My point is we need to push back at this stuff. Does the Chamber say: “In Trump we trust”? No, they work like busy beavers to get their guys inside the wire to advance their agenda and undermine us. Turning a blind eye to these machinations will just end in tears. Or Ivankacare. LOL.
Wow. This guy is sounding more like a real lemon each day.
The article is stupid and disingenuous. Exxon was facing the Obama Spanish Inquisition. Either repent or be put into the iron maiden.
Can ExxonMobil Be Found Liable for Misleading the Public on Climate Change?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-07/will-exxonmobil-have-to-pay-for-misleading-the-public-on-climate-change
Exxon Sues a Second Attorney General Off Climate Fraud Probehttps://insideclimatenews.org/news/16062016/exxon-sues-massachusetts-attorney-general-climate-change-fraud-investigation
Exxon Mobil Investigated for Possible Climate Change Lies by New York Attorney General
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/science/exxon-mobil-under-investigation-in-new-york-over-climate-statements.html?_r=0
I agree.
But if these constitutionally low-information CEO’s had been taught about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers, then they would have been able to argue the following point against federal global warming policy.
Since the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for environmental issues, the corrupt, state sovereignty-ignoring Congress wrongly let lawless Obama get away with stealing state powers to regulate such issues, Obama using those stolen powers to harrass the sovereign states.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Patriots need to work with Trump to drain the federal swamp, corrupt Congress probably the best place to start.
The article is stupid and disingenuous. Exxon was facing the Obama Spanish Inquisition. Either repent or be put into the iron maiden.
Not in 2007. A lot of wishful thinking going on here. Mega corps like Exxon were just fine with global warming and carbon tax regs because it smothers the competition.
Don’t get too excited about the posturing before the poker game begins.
There may be an opening to get China and India to clean up their dirty coal.
You don’t need to believe in the fraud of AGW to understand that would be a good thing.
With a corportist running State I think that’s just about guaranteed we will see some international “climate” agreements. They will pitch it as the “best deal we can get.”
The part in bold is true. There's no question the current rise in CO2 is not natural. There are people who point to CO2 following warming: http://joannenova.com.au/global-warming-2/ice-core-graph/ which is definitely true. But the key fact is that the CO2 follows warming to the tune of about 10 ppm per 1 degree of warming. The charts in the link show about 100 ppm rise or fall for 10 degrees rise or fall. The current rise in CO2 is 120 ppm since the 1800's. That means in the past 800 years or so there should have been 12C rise in deep ocean temperatures to produce all that CO2. There was not so that theory fails.
Another explanation is increased volcanic activity. There was probably more recent volcanic activity in the 80's and 90's helping to create a little more CO2 along with temporary cooling from stratospheric SO2. But each major volcano amounted to 1/100 of man's CO2. Also it doesn't seem likely that volcanic activity suddenly increased coincidentally with CO2 when 20,000 years of Greenland ice cores with annual resolution shows no other such coincidence.
Finally, CO2 could be increasing due to algae reductions and deforestation. There is a fudge factor added to the "official" manmade CO2 source for deforestation. That is unfortunate since it clouds the measurements. The rest of manmade CO2 in the official manmade sources are more clear: fossil fuel burning and cement making. Those are well measured thanks to industry economic data.
I didn’t finish my thought. The evidence is that recent CO2 is manmade. The question is so what? In the past, warming caused a CO2 rise. There is very little evidence from the ice cores and other proxies that CO2 caused any warming. There is no reason to worry about a very modest amount of warming that might occur from CO2. Climate models require lots of water vapor feedback to turn a small amount CO2 warming into a larger amount. But that means fewer storms, more benign weather, no floods or droughts, etc. IOW the opposite of the current claims by the climate alarmists.
I trust my contact implicitly. Known him for 50 years.
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