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Obamacare is no disaster. California is proving why
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 7, 2016 | Noam N. Levey

Posted on 10/07/2016 6:16:51 AM PDT by artichokegrower

Even as turmoil in insurance markets nationwide fuels renewed election-year attacks on the Affordable Care Act, California is emerging as a clear illustration of what the law can achieve.

The state has recorded some of the nation’s most dramatic gains in health coverage since 2013 while building a competitive insurance marketplace that offers consumers enhanced protections from high medical bills.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: california; obamacare
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Like consumers elsewhere, some Californians, particularly those who make too much money to qualify for government subsidies, are seeing substantial premium increases and narrowing networks


You mean working people. 14 million Californians on Medi-Cal means 14 million Hilary voters.

1 posted on 10/07/2016 6:16:51 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

‘Gains in health coverage’

But losses in actual care. This country is at it’s tipping point. California is NOT the model the rest of the States should follow.


2 posted on 10/07/2016 6:19:28 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: artichokegrower

They ginned up enough of a socialist spirit to get it not to fail in the ludicrous category.

Of course that, as the greenies like to say, is unsustainable.


3 posted on 10/07/2016 6:20:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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“The state has recorded some of the nation’s most dramatic gains in health coverage since 2013 while building a competitive insurance marketplace that offers consumers enhanced protections from high medical bills.”

Great. Let Mexifornia have its own CommieCare program and abandon the disastrous, unconstitutional “Affordable” Care Act.


4 posted on 10/07/2016 6:21:06 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: artichokegrower

Democrat playbook: When the truth is working against you make up some “facts”. Write an article based on these “facts.” Repeat.

This works.


5 posted on 10/07/2016 6:22:04 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: artichokegrower

... not to fail NOW.

When the bill appears the potemkin village will be repossessed... with torches & pitchforks


6 posted on 10/07/2016 6:22:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Would not work without an Uncle Sugar subsidy. If California actually had to make socialism go on its lonesome...


7 posted on 10/07/2016 6:23:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Um...we live in California.
ObamaCare Bronze Plan with Anthem Blue Cross.
Just got a letter telling us Premiums were going up about 31%.
So.....Rrriggghhhttt...sure.
BTW, Bronze started with 5k annual deductable...next to 6k and last yr to 6.5k....meaning 1st $6,500 comes out of your wallet before ObamaCare pays anything....

Author of this article is either crazy or a Dem.


8 posted on 10/07/2016 6:24:13 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (All change is progress.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

“Let Mexifornia have its own CommieCare program”

That California finances with its own money.


9 posted on 10/07/2016 6:25:05 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: OldArmy52

p.s. Pre-ObamaCare, we got better coverage at about half the price. Other issue is finding a doctor who will take it. Calif is a Dem State unfortunately, so sanity will never return....


10 posted on 10/07/2016 6:26:28 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (All change is progress.)
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To: artichokegrower

And now they’re asking that illegals be allowed into the program. Next, they’ll be asking for subsidies for the squatters on Obamacare, giving failing CA another pipeline to the pockets of taxpayers in sane states run by Republican governors. Too bad we can’t kick some of these Democrat states out of the union.


11 posted on 10/07/2016 6:26:58 AM PDT by txrefugee
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“Just got a letter telling us Premiums were going up about 31%.”

Liberals don’t care what it costs you. They only care about the “poor” whose premiums are subsidized. Those receiving subsidies are insulated against cost increases. To a liberal, if you aren’t eligible for a subsidy you deserve to pay increasing rates.


12 posted on 10/07/2016 6:27:25 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Tomorrow is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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Just got a letter telling us Premiums were going up about 31%.

Well it's your own fault for making too much money.

Author of this article is either crazy or a Dem.

Like the two are mutually exclusive.

13 posted on 10/07/2016 6:27:28 AM PDT by Maceman (Screw the Party. Save the Country.)
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To: cymbeline

Well in some sense a lot of it manages to be Little Mexico.

A buddy’s daughter lives in Mexico proper, just across the border from her American job. Pays Mexican rent, earns American wages... that can be sustained, for now.


14 posted on 10/07/2016 6:27:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Soul of the South

This wasn’t even a good way to do out and out welfare, which the Dems should confess was the real goal. Way more overhead than necessary, hires an army of bureaucrats to oversee it. Wait, that is also a welfare program.


15 posted on 10/07/2016 6:28:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: originalbuckeye

>>‘Gains in health coverage’

>But losses in actual care.

I don’t know why more people don’t focus on this aspect. The original problem (according to the Democrats) was that a lot of Americans could not see a doctor; they weren’t getting medical care.

Did the Democrats build more medical schools? No.
Did the Democrats find a way to get more doctors? No.
Did the Democrats find a way to get more nurses? No.

The Democrats did NOTHING to create more actual care.
But they gave people “coverage”. They gave people “insurance”.

That’s redistribution of wealth and nothing but redistribution of wealth. There is no medical component in ObamaCare. It’s not about the actual care, it’s about “coverage”, meaning: money.

No one wanted that. But that’s all that was offered.


16 posted on 10/07/2016 6:32:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: artichokegrower

A Federal program means other states are paying for California via tax payers, not only in California but, in other states.


17 posted on 10/07/2016 6:36:21 AM PDT by Leep (Just say no to half dead hillary and wrong lane kaine!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Good points, hope Trump is getting them.


18 posted on 10/07/2016 6:36:50 AM PDT by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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To: OldArmy52

Author of this article is either crazy or a Dem.

Same thing isn’t it?

As others have noted: they just makin crap up now....


19 posted on 10/07/2016 6:37:10 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly Deplorable.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Like giving the hungry plates that have pictures of food painted on them... and at the expense of a fund that could have actually procured more food, too!

This is where the liberal (in the original sense) conservative is needed. One who can couch the issue in terms of universally understood canons of caring, and yet does not fall for the image over the substance.


20 posted on 10/07/2016 6:37:26 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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