Posted on 09/16/2016 6:04:38 AM PDT by profit_guy
The key is to make it a sprint to the finish.
If Hillary drops out around October 1, there will be at least a week or two of fighting over what happens next. Nobody will even look at Gillibrand until the 4 Liberals + Kennedy on the Supreme Court rule on October 15th that the Democrats must be allowed to put a substitute name on the ballot.
Then you have three weeks. The Republicans will have no choice but to unleash everything they have. At that point, the more the oppo researchers dig up, the better for Gillibrand, because she can play the victim to the Republican onslaught.
Having a huge oppo research file only helps you if you have time to drip-drip-drip out the damaging material. If you have to dump it all at once, it all becomes "stray electricity" as they say in the Obama camp.
All she would have to do is stand there and smile, while the Republicans destroy themselves.
Generally speaking, nobody thinks of Representatives when talking about running for President.
But in a foreshortened campaign season, that might not matter. I have to admit, at first glance, Tulsi Gabbard looks dynamite. And a first glance is really all we're talking about, here...
You might have a point.
The scenario that concerns me is if they pick Michelle Obama, and thus we’d get another 4-8 years of Barrack. Lefties would vote in droves for her.
I think it would be too much tumult for them to re-open the nomination and nominate Sanders. They would have to go with Kaine, I think. And they’d probably just do it by telling people to vote for Hillary with the understanding that Kaine would be the actual person elected since he would succeed Hillary.
So get going! We're all counting on you!
Yeah. Michelle would be pretty tough.
God! Let’s not give them any ideas!
1) Hillary is fine
2) Hillary won’t step down
3) Hillary may wake dead real soon — tragic accident while lifting a heavy barbell?
4) The media won’t even bat an eye at the totally unexpected and mysterious death.
5) The media will cheer [fill-in-the-blank] as the most qualified candidate in history.
They ought to have a debate between the two McCs — McConnell and McPain — to find out who would be best. And not let KY and AZ people have a voice!
True, but I think the pressure will come from the White House. You know Obama is going crazy trying to figure out another way to stop Trump, since Hillary is not doing the job. Based on the past with this bunch, I know they have some more tricks up their sleeve. And if they don't stop Trump at the ballot box, they will try to stop him through the courts. That is basically the home turf of the left.
Agree 100%. The Dems are stuck with her. The Clintons have the goods on everyone in the party and a lot of lefty women want a female president, and won’t necessarily vote for Uncle Joe or Comrade Bernie. The Dems have a mess on their hands. Good to see their side being politically inept for a change.
Tulsi Gabbard was strongly pro-Bernie in the primary. She would probably not be acceptable to Hillary. So the question is, how much influence will Hillary and her minions exercise over the choice?
All this speculation might have been relevant a few weeks or months ago.
Should Hillary drop dead today, Dems would probably leave the ballot as is, meaning a win would wind up with President Kaine. Why? Replacing Hill at this late date would raise too many questions that would have to be resolved state by state and in Congress, neither of which Dems could count on.
I take a different view. I think they’re gonna let Hillary go down in flames. The Obama wing will then have total control of the Democrat Party with no Clintons to worry about. They can control the nominating process in 2020 and run Michelle or Cory Booker with a Hispanic VP candidate. Right now the country is in no mood for another Democrat president. In four years anything can happen. With Obama directing things from the outside the Democrats in Congress, with help from the GOPe, can put all of Trump’s proposed legislation in gridlock. They can then blame Trump for nothing getting done and by 2020 the Dems are gonna hope people will want change again, and there’s Cory Booker or Michelle ready to go with the former president in control of the party. From a political standpoint it’s better for the Dems for Hillary to go down. Short term loss for a long term gain, and don’t think there aren’t people at the DNC and the White House not thinking along the same lines.
Seems like selecting Lindsey Graham would put a check-mark next to the "vagina" requirement.
What about Lurch? If the Democrats had done more ballot-stuffing in Ohio in 2004, he would have won the election.
“Dems want Bernie to replace ‘Bernie’”
TRUTH is stranger than fiction! And more evil, too!
Paul Ryan
This is who Roger Stone says they will put in Hillary's place. I don't understand that because she doesn't have any background to qualify her for such an important position. Supposedly women will want to vote for the first woman president. I hope people haven't gotten that stupid.
. . . when you vote for a presidential candidate, you are really voting for an Elector pledged to that particular candidate.Replacing Hillary at this point will create a real mess... what happens to the votes already cast?
. . . replacing Hillary would not be a big deal. Electors pledged to Hillary would just vote for the current Dem nominee when the Electoral College meets.
Correct. An Elector is a (short-lived) state office.This dramatizes the “faithless elector” issue, in that the populist view is that the people of the state vote for POTUS - but the Constitution would not have even created the office of Elector if that was what was intended. The Constitution does not even so much as mention the possibility that the Electors of a given state will be popularly elected.
To dramatize the difference, consider that in nearly all but not all states, the Electors all stand for election statewide. But in Nebraska (and, what is it, Maine?) only two Electors stand for office statewide, and the rest each run in a Congressional District.
There cannot, in that context, be a federal case against the Electors. That does not compute. Elector is a state office, filled by a person selected (that’s the word in the Constitution) "in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.” That could be by lottery, for all the federal government is allowed under the Constitution to care. The only thing an Elector cannot be, is a federal official.
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