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What Happens If Trump Is Defeated?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | April 11, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/11/2016 3:53:02 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: All right, look. It really doesn't matter whether I think Cruz is cheating or not. Some of you do, and that's as far as it goes. You don't... But I'm gonna try to explain this to you because I think it is very important that everybody understand this. Now, I just said closing out the previous hour something, apparently, very provocative. My e-mail is blowing up. I'm thinking ahead down the road. I'm asking myself, what happens here if the establishment succeeds in beating Trump? For this discussion, it doesn't matter whether they do it legitimately or quote/unquote "cheat."

At the end of this, if Trump doesn't get the nomination after all of this, then what's next? Now, Pat Buchanan has written that he thinks it doesn't really matter because Trump has ignited a new nationalistic populist movement which will not be denied, and that if they don't get there this year, this movement now has found out how powerful it is and how many people are in it; that in certain polling senses they are a majority. A number of people oppose immigration, want a wall, and have trade deal opposition. So Buchanan says that...

And, by the way, he's not hoping for this. But if Trump doesn't get the nomination, he says that that doesn't matter because this group of people, the Trumpists -- the people supporting Trump. Buchanan believes they're actually supporting more than Trump. They are supporting a set of ideas and principles that will survive Trump. And that a new movement has been born, that the genie's out of the bottle, that the establishment will not be able to put back in the bottle.

Doug Schoen, who's a Democrat pollster and strategist who also appears on the evil and dreaded Fox News Channel where he does analysis -- usually sitting next to, I think, Monica Crowley or whoever they put him with, just to balance it out. You know, "fair and balanced," you decide. Doug has a piece here. (chuckles) Oh, look! It's at Fox News. And the headline: "Donald Trump Saw What Politicians Ignored. And Then he Disrupted American Politics." And his theme is this.

"In future elections, we may not have someone as outlandish as Trump. But his legacy will surely have paved the way for leaders who may not know anything about governing, but know a lot about how people are feeling." I gather from this... Here the headline: "Donald Trump Saw What Politicians Ignored. And Then he Disrupted American Politics." He quite correctly notes the genuine depth of anger that a majority of Americans feel, and he thinks -- I guess along the line with Buchanan -- that a new movement has begun here.

I don't deny that. I mean, I don't deny that the people who think what they think are gonna stop thinking it, and I don't doubt that there's a lot of them. But my only point is this. This is how serious it is. If the establishment succeeds or if Ted Cruz -- and those are two different entities, by the way. Ted Cruz is not the establishment right now. So you've got two entities working against Trump. You got Cruz from the campaign angle; you've got the establishment from their own angle. If either or both succeed in stopping Trump, where does this movement go?

I have no doubt they might abandon the Republican Party. But my instincts tell me that... What's the objective here? If you're a Trumpist, what's the objective? After winning, besides winning, what's the objective? It's to abolish this insider club, right? It's to abolish the establishment. It's to get rid of it once and for all, realizing you're only gonna be able to do that on the Republican side. (chuckling) The Democrats are not gonna let anybody come in and kick them out of it -- and I don't think the Republicans are, either.

But let's say that that's the ultimate objective is to just get rid of this club, is to get rid of all of this insider stuff, all the favoritism, all the back scratching, all the cronyism, all the unfairness, you know, all the greasing skids for everybody's kids so all they have to do is grow up and they're automatic successes and all this is. Get rid of it, blow it up, and turn it back over to a merit based. I'm here to tell you that if the establishment beats back this effort, nobody's gonna come along and take it away from 'em again. (interruption)

Why are you shaking your head in there? (interruption) You doubt my premise? (interruption) Well, my only point here is that the objective is to... If the problem is perceived to be the establishment, which it is, and Trump is the vehicle for victory overwhelming, overcoming the establishment, what happens if Trump doesn't win? The establishment holds on. If Trump doesn't win, no matter what. If the Trumpists represent one half of the voters of the Republican Party, and then if every one of them stops voting Republican, that is not gonna end the Republican establishment.

And, furthermore, the Republican establishment won't care. That's the problem. They won't care. As long as they hold on to their fiefdom, as long as there is a Republican Party, and as long as the people who run it continue to run it, then beating back this latest insurgency, they will consider to be a victory. Not whether they win the White House or not. Their first order of business right now is to beat back the insurgency, the rabble-rousers, the peasants with the pitchforks.

That's their first objective right now. And if they have to roll up their sleeves and work with Ted Cruz for a couple of months to do it, they'll do it. But then Cruz is gonna be their next target. (interruption) Don't doubt me. (interruption) Don't shake your heads in there. Don't doubt me on this. These are people hanging on for dear life. These are people in a car that has gone over the cliff; it's sinking to the bottom of the lake. They're struggling to get the windows open and swim out of that car, and they're gonna do everything they can to live.

They're not gonna allow Trump to push that car over the cliff with the doors and windows locked, or Cruz, for that matter. So my only point is this: If Trump, as a candidate, ends up being defeated, and if he doesn't get to 1,237, do you see him winning on a second or third ballot, given what you've seen happen this weekend? Well, some people don't, but even though you've gotta realize something. If everybody's out there buying delegates, don't forget Trump has Mar-a-Lago.

I mean, if you're gonna wine and dine delegates, Trump's got Trump Force One. I mean, Trump's... There you go once again: Insulting delegates, thinking they can be bought off with... (interruption) Well, can I give you some names? (chuckling) No, folks, I'm just kidding. Look, the anti-establishment movement is real. It's a lot of people. But if it doesn't succeed in making great, great inroads in the establishment this time around, it's gonna be a long time before it happens again. The establishment's gonna be well girded, well protected -- and this is for keeps. That's why...

I'm sorry. All of this is precisely why the focus on Hillary and Obama and the Democrats hasbeen lost, because right now people are in a life-and-death struggle over their identity, their self-worth and any number of other things.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
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To: rdb3

Why is it the most obnoxious ones almost never have an ‘about’ page? Don’t they pay them enough to at least work up a legend?


141 posted on 04/12/2016 4:35:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: jpsb

Forever is a long time.

A bit longer than the 1000 Year Reich.


142 posted on 04/12/2016 4:37:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp
Which means the GOP doesn’t need me.

Well, Bye!

143 posted on 04/12/2016 4:38:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

At least Obama has promised Hillary that politics will NOT be involved in the FBI case of her e-mails.


144 posted on 04/12/2016 4:39:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

To quote Rush himself, he’s taken incoming from all sides. This hasn’t been tour average election where the party rallies around the front runner and the people. This has been nothing but a “stop Trump” election. I will not vote period. If my florida vote didn’t count in the primary then why would it count in the general.


145 posted on 04/12/2016 4:41:11 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Elsie
Forever is a long time.

Only in hindsight.

146 posted on 04/12/2016 4:45:12 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Kaslin

If Trump loses you will wind up with Another 4 years of democrats, pure and simple. The GOP has not won the popular vote for president, with the sole exception of the re election of a wartime president, and then only by about 2.5% of the vote, in 28 years.

Now they have someone who is honestly expanding the base and they would rather destroy him than anything else.

The GOP is committing suicide.


147 posted on 04/12/2016 4:45:16 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: W.P. Wily

I wish he would run as a Constitution Party member.


148 posted on 04/12/2016 4:58:40 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

I am very concerned you will be right, the outcome could be very bad.


149 posted on 04/12/2016 4:59:20 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: huldah1776

what constitution party? it is but a delusion of a very very few


150 posted on 04/12/2016 5:00:41 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson was my guy but now is a Trumplican)
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To: bert

Are you sure about that?


151 posted on 04/12/2016 5:02:49 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

There are those that pretend to have parties but in reality, they do not.

They pretend to be parties and a few pretend to vote for them but the reality it is just pretend

Pretending gives protection from reality requiring courage


152 posted on 04/12/2016 5:06:09 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson was my guy but now is a Trumplican)
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To: Elsie

Well, bless his heart.


153 posted on 04/12/2016 5:36:09 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: bert

I call them alternate ways to protest a corrupt system.


154 posted on 04/12/2016 6:20:03 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: combat_boots

‘Arches of Baal’ to be unveiled in NYC (and London) the same day as the NY Primary...April 19. Hmmm...what is it about that date?


155 posted on 04/12/2016 6:54:29 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Why is it the most obnoxious ones almost never have an ‘about’ page? Don’t they pay them enough to at least work up a legend?

Ha! You may have a point there.

FR's jerks, and there is a number of them, just want to be pests.

They add nothing substantive to any discussion. Add nothing to a thread, hijack it, stir up the crap-pot, and off they go! Giggling and chuckling, fully satisfied with themselves.

Jesus Christ: You can't impeach Him and He ain't gonna resign.



156 posted on 04/12/2016 7:33:27 AM PDT by rdb3 (You know, I've yet to see a hearse with a U-Hall trailer hitched to it. . .)
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To: W.P. Wily; huldah1776

If Cruz is such a strict Constitutionalist, why didn’t he run under the Constitution Party ?


157 posted on 04/12/2016 7:33:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Hope that the larger GOP could be reformed? If Ryan is in fact nominated he would have no problems joining the Constitution Party.


158 posted on 04/12/2016 7:37:58 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: who knows what evil?; combat_boots
Victory! The Arch From The Temple Of Baal Planned For New York City Has Been CANCELED
159 posted on 04/12/2016 7:40:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: trisham
I’m shocked at Limbaugh. I never guessed that he would move in this direction.

I am not the least bit shocked... I stopped listening to the blowhard in 2012... Right before the Florida primary when he breathlessly read a NR article by Elliot Abrams against Newt... Rush did not do his homework to find out Elliot's piece was a pack of lies... IIRC it was Jeffery Lord that corrected Rush from of all places the Congressional Record... But the damage was done to Newt and Romney won the Florida primary... I have not forgotten Rush's willingness to carry the GOPe, sewage.

Then the New York Times outs Rush for getting amnesty talking points secretly dining with Schumer and Graham back in 2011. I think Rush has green eyed envy over Trump's success... Rush is just too lazy and cares about his bank account more than the Constitution...

Funny thing about that Elliot Abrams hit piece on Newt, I cannot find it anywhere on the web.

160 posted on 04/12/2016 7:44:37 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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