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[Vanity] Trump Pushes Single Payer Healthcare, Tax Increase on Wealthy
[Vanity based on article from] Breitbart ^ | 28 September 20159/2015

Posted on 01/29/2016 9:08:55 PM PST by teg_76

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To: steve86

Trump is Paleo ... which is the only real type of Conservative ..


21 posted on 01/29/2016 9:21:15 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Trump is the only one who will secure our borders . Vote Trump)
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To: teg_76

Nobody on here said Mark Levin is a liberal...


22 posted on 01/29/2016 9:21:37 PM PST by freespirit2012
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To: teg_76

“What will they say win he wins and starts implementing policies like increased taxes and universal healthcare?”

I got news for you. Only congress can enact such policies.

If this is your biggest concern then Ted Cruz is in the right place.


23 posted on 01/29/2016 9:22:19 PM PST by Helicondelta
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To: teg_76
For the sake of this country wake up! This was four months ago.

At least he didn't foget all the banks who loaned him money, who his wife works for and her CFR connection, his votes on corker, TPA or TPP or whatever, and why he was FOR legalization.


24 posted on 01/29/2016 9:24:41 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: teg_76

Put down your marijuana cigarette and go sit in the corner.


25 posted on 01/29/2016 9:24:46 PM PST by Mr Apple (NO TO ALL ISLAMIC TOWEL HEAD MUSLIM RAPEFUGEES IN HALLOWEEN GOWNS!)
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To: teg_76

Mark Levin tweeted this BS article without reading it.

He is not a liberal. He is just a lazy bastard.

He said many nice things about Trump not too long ago.


26 posted on 01/29/2016 9:24:51 PM PST by Helicondelta
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To: freespirit2012
Tax Increases on the Wealthy (only 4 months ago), freespirit2012 wrote: well if you paid attention and not trying to distort what he stands for, you would understand that Trump does not believe a single payer system would work in the U.S.

Have you noticed that he has never said that he is opposed to government run universal healthcare - he freely admits he thinks it works well elsewhere. He just doesn't think it will work here now. He doesn't object to socialized medicine - his only objections are about the practicality of implementing it here. That is the same argument Democrats have been making for a long time; it's just that the Dems are starting to delude themselves into thinking it will work here after all. So what makes you think if Donald decides that HE could make it work, that he wouldn't try?

27 posted on 01/29/2016 9:25:11 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Kenny

I read the article If it’s a lie, why isn’t Trump suing them or denouncing the article??? If we elect him and her goes with it I like my plan and he as well as Obama can keep their paws off it. Ditch the whole damned thing —no socialized plan. Trump is NO conservative. You Trumpies are blind sighted. Trump says so little about issues how can we trust him...Trust must be earned.


28 posted on 01/29/2016 9:25:20 PM PST by RightLady (It's gotta be Cruz)
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To: Helicondelta

This guy teggie is a ridiculous doofus, rofl.


29 posted on 01/29/2016 9:28:54 PM PST by Mr Apple (NO TO ALL ISLAMIC TOWEL HEAD MUSLIM RAPEFUGEES IN HALLOWEEN GOWNS!)
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To: Helicondelta

Let’s see....Helicondelta, freepers as of late 2015....or Mark Levin? I think I’ll go with Levin.


30 posted on 01/29/2016 9:28:56 PM PST by teg_76
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To: CA Conservative

well— that is a pretty well reasoned argument.... I think that Trump would not risk going against his conservative base.. that will bring him to the presidency... and it would require 60 votes in the senate which will not happen again... I see that whole scenario as extremely unlikely...


31 posted on 01/29/2016 9:31:05 PM PST by freespirit2012
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To: RightLady
(It's gotta be Cruz)

It can't be Cruz. Cruz already threw in the towel last night and both he and jeb have gone to gig frogs now.

32 posted on 01/29/2016 9:31:14 PM PST by Mr Apple (NO TO ALL ISLAMIC TOWEL HEAD MUSLIM RAPEFUGEES IN HALLOWEEN GOWNS!)
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To: teg_76

Interesting how every poll has Cruz winning conservatives and Trump winning moderates(aka liberals)....


33 posted on 01/29/2016 9:31:42 PM PST by teg_76
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To: teg_76

I don’t know which part of “the government is going to pay for it” they can’t see as single payer. Maybe it’s the fact that they will have to pay for that bottom 25% AND their own insurance. Since they pay twice I guess it isn’t single payer? Heck, if the government is going to pay (meaning you the taxpayer) then you might as well get something for it. Otherwise it is just a giant jump in the welfare state. Two choices: Big government or the welfare state. Not a lot of difference.


34 posted on 01/29/2016 9:34:10 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: teg_76
... vanity ...

You got that right.

35 posted on 01/29/2016 9:35:18 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: teg_76

What will YOU say when he wins and doesn’t do ANYTHING at all re the specious lies you and your benighted ilk post ?


36 posted on 01/29/2016 9:35:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: teg_76

You need to watch how much pot you smoke. lol.


37 posted on 01/29/2016 9:37:15 PM PST by Mr Apple ( GO TRUMP GO!)
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To: teg_76
You're so far gone, you don't even know what a FACT is!

And dear old Mark Levin isn't as "conservative" as you imagine he is.

38 posted on 01/29/2016 9:39:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: teg_76

Here is a summary of Trump’s positions on healthcare since 2010...

We already have single payer for every American over 65 with Medicare.(People age 65 or older, who are citizens or permanent residents of the United States, are eligible for Medicare hospital insurance.)

Replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts

Q: On health care, Ben Carson’s calling for health savings accounts. What do you think of that?
TRUMP: Well, I’m OK with the savings accounts. I think it’s a good idea; it’s a very down-the-middle idea. It works. It’s something that’s proven. The one thing we have to do is repeal and replace ObamaCare. It is a disaster. People’s premiums are going up 35 percent, 45 percent, 55 percent. Their deductibles are so high nobody’s ever going to get to use it. So ObamaCare is turning out to be a bigger disaster than anybody thought.
Q: So if you agree with these health savings accounts idea, do you also agree with Ben Carson when he says Medicare probably won’t be necessary?
TRUMP: Well, it’s possible. You’re going to have to look at that, but I’ll tell you what, the health savings accounts, I’ve been talking about it also. I think it’s a very good idea.
Source: ABC This Week 2015 interview by Martha Raddatz , Oct 25, 2015
I’m for vaccines, but in smaller quantities to avoid autism

Q [to Carson]: Donald Trump has publicly and repeatedly linked autism to childhood vaccines. Your opinion?
CARSON: There have been numerous studies, and they have not demonstrated that there is any correlation between vaccinations and autism.
Q [to Trump]: As president, you would be in charge of the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health, both of which say you are wrong.
TRUMP: Autism has become an epidemic. It has gotten totally out of control. I am totally in favor of vaccines. But I want smaller doses over a longer period of time. You take this little baby, and you pump—I mean, it looks like it’s meant for a horse, not for a child. Just the other day, a 2-year-old child went to have the vaccine, and got a fever; now is autistic. I’m in favor of vaccines, do them over a longer period of time, same amount. And I think you’re going to see a big impact on autism.
CARSON: We are probably giving way too many in too short a period of time.
Source: 2015 Republican two-tiered primary debate on CNN , Sep 16, 2015
The insurance companies have total control over politicians

Q: ObamaCare is one of the things you call a disaster.
TRUMP: A complete disaster, yes.
Q: Saying it needs to be repealed & replaced.
TRUMP: Correct.
Q: Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system. Why were you for that then and why aren’t you for it now?
TRUMP: As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It could have worked in a different age. What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state. I have a big company with thousands of employees. And if I’m negotiating in BY or NJ or CA, I have like one bidder. Nobody can bid. You know why? Because the insurance companies are making a fortune because they have control of the politicians. They’re making a fortune. Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have yourself great plans. And then we have to take care of the people that can’t take care of themselves. And I will do that through a different system.
Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript , Aug 6, 2015
We didn’t have a free market before ObamaCare

Q: in 2000, you wrote that you’re a liberal on health care, and you supported a Canadian-style system, where the government acts as an insurer. Is that what you still believe?
A: You know, I looked at that. I looked at it very seriously. Some people don’t agree with me on this: I want everyone to have coverage. I love the free market, but we never had a free market. Even before ObamaCare, it wasn’t really free market. As an example, in New York, when I wanted to bid out my health insurance, we had boundaries. I could only go in New York. If I wanted to bid it out to a company from California or New Jersey, anywhere—you get no bids.
Q: But the single payer, you’re not interested anymore?
A: No. No, these are different times. And over the years, you are going to change your attitudes. You’re going to learn things and you’re going to change. And I have evolved on that issue. I have evolved on numerous issues.
Source: CNN SOTU 2015 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls , Jun 28, 2015
ObamaCare is a catastrophe that must be repealed & replaced

What does Donald Trump believe? ObamaCare: Repeal it. Replace it.
Speaking at the Iowa Freedom Summit in January, Trump said ObamaCare is a catastrophe that must be repealed and replaced. In 2011, Trump suggested that the health insurance industry have more ability to cross state lines. In “The America We Deserve” Trump wrote that he supported universal healthcare and a system that would mirror Canada’s government-run healthcare service.
Source: PBS News Hour “2016” series on 2015 Iowa Freedom Summit , Jun 16, 2015
Don’t cut Medicare; grow the economy to keep benefits

What does Donald Trump believe? Entitlements: Do not cut Social Security or Medicare benefits. Grow the economy to save those programs.
The real estate tycoon told CPAC in 2013 that Republicans should not cut Social Security or Medicare because most Americans want to keep the benefits as they stand now. His solution is unclear, but he has indicated that general economic growth would play a role. Trump tweeted in May that he knows “where to get the money from” and “nobody else does.”
Source: PBS News Hour “2016 Candidate Stands” series , Jun 16, 2015
ObamaCare deductibles are so high that it’s useless

We have a disaster called the big lie: ObamaCare. Yesterday, it came out that costs are going for people up 29, 39, 49, and even 55%, and deductibles are through the roof. You have to be hit by a tractor, literally, to use it, because the deductibles are so high, it’s virtually useless. It is a disaster.
And remember the $5 billion Web site? $5 billion we spent on a Web site, and to this day it doesn’t work. I have so many Web sites, I have them all over the place. I hire people, they do a Web site.
And it’s going to get worse, because remember, ObamaCare really kicks in, in 2016. It is going to be amazingly destructive. Doctors are quitting. I have a friend who’s a doctor, and he said to me, “Donald, I never saw anything like it. I have more accountants than I have nurses.”
We have to repeal ObamaCare, and it can be replaced with something much better for everybody. Let it be for everybody. But much better and much less expensive for people and for the government. And we can do it.
Source: 2015 announcement speeches of 2016 presidential hopefuls , Jun 16, 2015
Save Medicare & Medicaid without cutting them to the bone

He pledged to save Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid “without cutting it to the bone” by “making the country rich again.” He vowed to repeal Obama’s Affordable Care Act and replace it with something better, although he didn’t provide any details.
Trump made no effort to woo mainstream GOP elected officials. He remarked, “I am a Republican, and I am disappointed with our Republican politicians because they let our president get away with absolute murder.”
Source: Des Moines Register on 2015 Iowa Freedom Summit , Jan 24, 2015
Kill ObamaCare before it becomes a trillion-ton weight

Obamacare can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed. It’s that bad. Obamacare has to be killed now before it grows into an even bigger mess, as it inevitably will. Obamacare takes full effect in 2014. If it’s not repealed before then, it will be more than just another failed government entitlement program—it will be the trillion-ton weight that finally takes down our economy forever.
Obamacare is a heat-seeking missile that will destroy jobs & small businesses; it will explode health-care costs; and it will lead to health care that is far less innovative than it is today. Every argument that you’d make against socialism you can make against socialized health care, and any candidate who isn’t 100% committed to scrapping Obamacare is not someone America should elect president. Repealing Obamacare may be one of the most important and consequential actions our next president takes.
Source: Time to Get Tough, by Donald Trump, p.121-122 , Dec 5, 2011
Increase insurance competition across state lines

Even if we elect a real president who will get tough and repeal Obamacare, we still need a plan to bring down health-care costs and make health-care insurance more affordable for everyone. It starts with increasing competition between insurance companies. Competition makes everything better and more affordable.
One way to infuse more competition into the market is to let citizens purchase health-care plans across state lines.
This could be easily accomplished if Congress got some guts and did the right thing. The U.S. Constitution gives Congress control over interstate commerce. But for whatever reason, the Congress has never exercised this power regarding health insurance. They need to.
Source: Time to Get Tough, by Donald Trump, p.131 , Dec 5, 2011


39 posted on 01/29/2016 9:41:19 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican (Angry yes, mad, no. "Let Trump Be Trump")
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To: RightLady

You can’t trust Cruz; he lies his head off, yet you all believe that he “walks on water”.


40 posted on 01/29/2016 9:41:51 PM PST by nopardons
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