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Will the World Survive Obama's Last 12 Months?
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2016 | Joy Overbeck

Posted on 01/29/2016 12:46:22 PM PST by Kaslin

Speaking in Colorado at the recent Steamboat Institute Summit on Foreign Policy, columnist, author and scholar Victor Davis Hanson predicted a rough 12 months in which Barack Obama's appeasement habit versus Vladimir Putin's aggression may put the NATO alliance at risk. Noting how easily Putin grabbed Crimea, Hanson said, "If Putin goes into, say, Estonia, does anybody think Obama would say that's a red line and invoke Article 5 of the NATO charter? And if he didn't do anything wouldn't that mean the dissolution of NATO, which is what Putin wants?"

Estonia is one of the former Soviet satellite Baltic States admitted to NATO in 2004, entitling it to the mutual defense of Article 5 if the nation of 1.3 million is invaded, presumably by its Russian neighbor.

Continued Dr. Hanson, "I think Putin will be successful in one or two Baltic states and the New York Times will say: who wants to die for Estonia?" The key to deterrence, he said, is that the other side must never know whether America will use our ultimate weapons.

As a Senior Fellow in Classics and Military History at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, Dr. Hanson drew on multiple examples in his speech, "The Loss of American Deterrence." "The appeaser is always beloved because he promises peace," he said, "but the deterrent leader is hated by his own people." For example, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlin was a hero when he famously brought home a deal with Hitler in 1938.

In the Munich Agreement, Hitler promised to stop his aggression but Winston Churchill wasn't buying it. "When Churchill said we need more RAF squadrons because we can't trust Herr Hitler, the British people called him a warmonger who wanted another world war," Hanson said. We know how that turned out.

Appeasement has its price on a personal level too. The government leader who is appeased usually has nothing but contempt for the leader who appeases him, Hanson observed. After Chamberlain left Germany, clutching his fake "peace in our time" guarantee, Hitler told his top henchman Hermann Goering, "if that stupid little man ever comes back with his umbrella, I'm gonna step on him." Similarly, "Vladimir Putin detests Barack Obama," Hanson revealed. "He thinks Obama doesn't really represent the people of the U.S."

Closer to our era, President Jimmy Carter was beloved in the late 70's when he declared America should have no inordinate fear of communism and told the nation that "not one soldier will die on my watch." The Soviet Union breathed easy and continued to brutally oppress East Germany and its captive satellite states, unmolested by the defenders of liberty.

The Muslim revolutionaries who took over Iran following the 1979 Islamic Revolution showed their respect for Carter's peacenik policies by storming the American embassy in November of that year. They arrogantly held our 52 American diplomats hostage for 444 days, releasing them only the day after Ronald Reagan was inaugurated president. They knew Reagan was no Carter-style appeaser.

"People demonized Reagan," said Hanson, "and it took him three or four years to restore deterrence." But in November of 1989, the eager hands of East and West Germans tore down the Berlin Wall that had cut off the suffering Soviet communist nations from the rest of the world. Thanks largely to Reagan's strong deterrence strategies, the Cold War and 28 years of Iron Curtain rule was settled - in favor of freedom.

Hanson predicted the next election will be a replay of 1980 when the electorate rejected the Carter appeasement mindset that for seven years now has been mirrored by Mr. Obama. "His successor cannot continue Obama's policy because it's suicidal," Hanson pointed out. "The next president will need to restore deterrence but will be despised as that will be very difficult to do." The steady reduction of our military doesn't help. The tragedy of all of this, said Hanson, is it's much like World War II - take away Britain's appeasement and the alliance of Russia and Hitler and it could have been stopped. Instead, appeasement took 60 million lives.

Hanson's study of Greece and Rome gives him an historical view of what happens to a culture with an identity crisis. "If a society is just a slave to its appetites, and people eat, go to bed, live, but don't think abstractly about where we come from, and why this nation is unique, there's no reason for that society to continue," he said. "If all our institutions like the Fourth of July are constantly made fun of and our past is not nourished, it's like a chain, one link passed on to the next."

"When the president says at the National Prayer Breakfast that Christians are responsible for all these deaths when it was only to retake Christian lands, people listen to that. They say to themselves, 'Well, the president is supposed to be a booster of American traditions; (70 to 75% are Christians) if he's not a booster, why should we be?' And this is quite dangerous."

As is the socialism increasingly infecting America. "Socialism erodes peoples' willingness and ability to spend money on defense," Hanson continued. "When half of the people are not paying income tax, they're not going to want to cut back on their pensions and food stamps. Socialism erodes national will and we are becoming more and more socialist."

Socialism also gives you a house, a job, tells you how to think, and promises the state will take care of you when you are old, said Hanson. "Socialism abrogates all personal responsibility. For some that's a narcotic."

Socialists think "equality" means it's wrong for people to use accidents of inheritance or luck or talent - and the state should have the power to rectify that, Hanson observed.

Speaking of socialism, I got a chance to spend a few minutes with Dr. Hanson and asked him if Hillary Clinton would be indicted. His frank answer: "It depends on any given day what Michelle and Barack and Valerie Jarrett feel. On one hand they don't like her, but they don't have an alternative. Now if Joe Biden would get in, yes. But if not, they don't think Bernie is a viable candidate."

How about Mr. Trump? "The left has perfected deterrence in establishing this linguistic kingdom. People understand if they deviate they will be demonized, destroyed. So here is Trump and people are saying, 'I don't care what he says, I like what he represents, the spirit.' Obama is Dr. Frankenstein, and Trump is his monster."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: barack0bama; globalsecurity; history; military; victordavishanson
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1 posted on 01/29/2016 12:46:23 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Why not just impeach and remove this outlaw Enemy in Chief. Then we don’t have to find out.


2 posted on 01/29/2016 12:47:43 PM PST by Jim W N
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3 posted on 01/29/2016 12:51:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EST)
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To: Jim 0216

Widespread civil disobedience to the edicts and fiats of the Current Occupant would have the effect of nullifying the worst of the encroachments on the legal limitations to anybody occupying the Oval Office.

Civil disobedience and even open disrespect were hounding Richard Nixon in his last few months.


4 posted on 01/29/2016 12:53:17 PM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: Jim 0216

Well we don’t have the votes for that. It would take a year to do that anyway. I think Congress should just take the year off and not do a thing. It wouldn’t really change what they do now anyway. Let Obama do the EO’s and the next President can rip them up. We will make it through the next 12 months unless God takes all of us. Otherwise we will continue to chug along.


5 posted on 01/29/2016 12:54:34 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Kaslin

Goodness knows we will at least be in a precarious situation for the next 357 days (or so) for sure.
The man has absolutely nothing-to-lose, despises America, despises Americans, and is sitting at the helm of it all.


6 posted on 01/29/2016 12:55:54 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Kaslin

That is a brilliant examination of the historical cause and effect relationships of appeasement versus real or imagined aggression!

One thing I will say is that there are a number of people in the Republican primary race who would be perceived as aggressors of the Reagan/”cowboy” variety. Trump would scare the hell out of our enemies, as would Cruz. Likewise, I don’t see Rubio or Christy backing down to the challenges we’re likely to face, but I’m not so sure about Kasich, Bush, Paul or even Carson.


7 posted on 01/29/2016 12:57:16 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Kaslin
Unfortunately, Obama is only a symptom of America's sickness.

Can America withstand mindless democratic voters who elected him is the real question.

8 posted on 01/29/2016 12:58:25 PM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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To: Jim 0216

“Why not just impeach and remove this outlaw Enemy in Chief. Then we don’t have to find out.”

If the Dems were smart, they would. That would make “Uncle Joe” pres and as a sitting president he could run uncontested eliminating Hitlery.


9 posted on 01/29/2016 1:00:06 PM PST by navet97
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To: ManHunter

I like to see Dr Carson as Secretary of Health and Human Services and hope whoever from our side becomes president will chose him.


10 posted on 01/29/2016 1:01:37 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: napscoordinator

BTTT


11 posted on 01/29/2016 1:03:07 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: PROCON

Unfortunately, Obama is only a symptom of America’s sickness.
Can America withstand mindless democratic voters who elected him is the real question.

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

Translated into English from an article appearing in the Czech Republic as published in the Prager Zeitung of 28 April 2010


12 posted on 01/29/2016 1:04:01 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: alloysteel

Civil disobedience, which here is a DUTY to withstand tyranny, should be hounding Obama EVERY day. The true outlaw is Obama and the feds.


13 posted on 01/29/2016 1:06:26 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Kaslin

So whom would Hansen want as the next Pres?

He’s got some excellent points about Obama and appeasement, and socialism, but he’s never seemed to be that conservative to me. I wouldn’t have seen him, say, as a Cruz supporter.


14 posted on 01/29/2016 1:07:03 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Kaslin
If Putin goes into, say, Estonia, does anybody think Obama would say that's a red line and invoke Article 5 of the NATO charter?

Wouldn't Estonia be the one to invoke the NATO charter? They're the ones being invaded. And if they did, never mind the U.S. Would Germany or Italy or Spain be willing to act even if we were?

15 posted on 01/29/2016 1:11:01 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin

I agree. I really like the guy a lot, but his demeanor and expertise are much more suited to the role of HHS Secretary or Surgeon General.


16 posted on 01/29/2016 1:14:09 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: alloysteel

Civil disobedience, which here is a DUTY to withstand tyranny, should be hounding Obama EVERY day. The true outlaw is Obama and the feds.


17 posted on 01/29/2016 1:26:11 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Kaslin

We cannot put anything past Obama. He is capable of many more and worse things.


18 posted on 01/29/2016 1:31:47 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Kaslin

Too bad Hanson suffers from Schlongholm syndrome.


19 posted on 01/29/2016 1:39:53 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: ManHunter
I don't know if he would qualify as Surgeon General, since they are all from Military and he never was in the military

The current Surgeon General is Vice Admiral Vivek H. Murthy

From Wikipedia Source

Responsibilities

The Surgeon General reports to the Assistant Secretary for Health (ASH), who may be a four-star admiral in the United States Public Health Service, Commissioned Corps (PHSCC), and who serves as the principal adviser to the Secretary of Health and Human Services on public health and scientific issues.

Scroll down to the list of Surgeon Generals

20 posted on 01/29/2016 1:52:21 PM PST by Kaslin
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