Posted on 01/22/2016 2:20:25 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009
Edited on 01/22/2016 2:33:50 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
This violates my policy of drunk postings, but the day we give AUMF to Obama is the day.....
Do not allow the ‘progressives’ to sabotage our forces again, PLEASE!
1. Create a foreign terrorist crisis:
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
By Seumas Milne
The sectarian terror group won’t be defeated by the western states that incubated it in the first place...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq
WASHINGTON Jan 20, 2016, 4:07 PM
Senate Democrats on Wednesday blocked a bill that would crack down on Syrian and Iraqi refugees coming to the US.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/senate-leader-fearmongering-syrian-refugee-bill-36391409
“Essentially a modern-day equivalent of a declaration of war, an authorization of military force, or AUMF, would allow Congress to spell out its priorities in the fight against the Islamic State. And the resolution introduced by McConnell highlights a clear contrast with the administration on foreign policy. It authorizes the president to:
From the Act language: “use all necessary and appropriate force in order to defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, its associated forces, organizations, and persons, and any successor organizations.”
*NOTHING in its provisions CONSTRAINS the length of that fight, LIMITS its GEOGRAPHIC scope, or imposes restrictions on the nature of the forces that could be deployed.
That may be well received by Republican lawmakers concerned that the administration’s proposal didn’t go far enough. But it is likely to alarm war-weary Democrats fearful that the U.S. could become locked into a protracted conflict abroad.
The resolution is co-sponsored by Graham along with Republican Senators Orrin Hatch, Joni Ernst and Daniel Coats.
The administration did not immediately signal opposition to the proposal on Thursday, instead indicating a potential willingness to compromise. “We certainly welcome Republicans taking an interest in specifically authorizing the continued use of military force against ISIL,†a White House spokesperson said, adding that the administration “remain[s] open to reasonable adjustments†to the president’s proposal.”
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/islamic-state-war/426528/
I believe McConnell (establishment), are up to some sort of shenanigan with this one, however I can’t quite put my finger on precisely what this move is about. Many possibilities, but which? Whatever it is it isn’t good for America just by the players involved.
“*NOTHING in its provisions CONSTRAINS the length of that fight, LIMITS its GEOGRAPHIC scope, or imposes restrictions on the nature of the forces that could be deployed.”
Perhaps I’m missing something here, or read something to mean other than your interpretation.
I’m not happy with McConnell’s wording in this bill with this President, but I’m not happy with any wording with anything with this President, however I think any constraints would have a detrimental effect on any such a law. Telegraphing our intentions in a law of this nature would seem foolish to me. I’d believe such intentions should be war room material based upon current events at the time it becomes necessary to implement such an act.
Defeat this now. “Isis” is way too undefined.Anything Bitch tries is rotten. Crush it. Stomp on it until it is dead. Russia is doing great. CLOSE OUR DAMNED BORDERS!!
GO TRUMP!!
+1
This is REAL BAD. Email your Senator NOW!! Tell them HELL NO And strong letter to follow!! Call also. This is a POWER GRAB!!CLOSE THE BORDERS!!! NOT OUR MOUTHS!!
Prelude to war, unless Boinky vetoes it. Saving American lives my left foot. More likely aiding and protecting the enemy. 2017 can’t get here fast enough.
I understand your thoughts on this regarding telling an adversary what you’re limiting scope action is.
However, War Act authorizations have been enacted in the past with specifics such as identifying an enemy country and authorization time limitation for renewal.
This is completely unprecedented.
Read my 3 point post and you should see that this has Nothing to do with fighting ISIS / IS / ISIL / the Levant or Daesh.
1. Fact: We created, funded, armed a murderous spreading Islamic international terrorist organization, ie: Al-Queda spin-off: ISIS
2. Fact: European countries and the US irrationally and deliberately refuse to vet hordes of middle east immigrants from ISIS / radical Islam countries of origin.
Europe, Canada and the US is ensuring importing ISIS into their “Homelands”.
3. Fact: Democrats / Uniparty votes down rigorous screening of immigrants from ISIS dominated countries. Instead, they pass a measure that allows bypass of rigorous vetting for immigrants who claim journalist or asylum from persecution.
This is done deliberately to ensure radical Islam terrorism arrives upon our soil, so as to keep the threat and fear factor high.
4. Fact: The Uniparty, lead by R senators craft a ISIS / Terrorism War Powers Act, that deliberately Defines NO federal military response, geographic location (foreign or domestic), or time of expiration requiring reauthorization.
Get it? All this deliberate crisis is done for creative destruction that is fundamentally transforming our country and the world.
Fiendishly brilliant NWO bass turds.
The Millions of innocent people who will suffer in misery, and die because of this creative destruction, mean not a damned thing to The Powers That Be.
Elites behind this planned chaos aren’t concerned in the least about our soldiers, sons and daughter’s lives.
Our apathy let this happen.
We do not need this fascist/communist/totalitarian NONSENSE no matter who is POTUS.
Absolutely!
I’m all in for locking up the CPUSA and their allies in the press and academia
Time to solve this problem once and for all
Hi, I know, and suspect this proposed War Powers Act hasn’t made it in the Thomas Registry because it’s slated for debate at an unspecified time this year.
Obama likes the expanded powers, as do most republicans and some democrats.
Understood, but we don’t know what those powers are until we can see the text. Assuming what they might be is useless.
This is a signal that Mitch is in their pocket.
Any President should not be given unlimited power with no end date and no boundaries. Lunacy
Found it!
No federal military scope, geographical or time limitation for this war act’s re-authorization.
Congressional Record - 114th Congress - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?r114:1:./temp/~r1147zcoDy::
The Library of Congress > THOMAS Home > Congressional Record > Search Results
Congressional Record
114th Congress
Congressional Record article 1 of 3 Â Â
STATEMENTS ON INTRODUCED BILLS AND JOINT RESOLUTIONS — (Senate - January 20, 2016)
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  By Mr. MCCONNELL (for himself, Mr. GRAHAM, Mr. COATS, Mr. HATCH, and Mrs. ERNST):
  S.J. Res. 29. A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and its associated forces; read the first time.
  Mr. MCCONNELL. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the text of the joint resolution be printed in the RECORD.
  There being no objection, the text of the joint resolution was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as follows:
  S.J. Res. 29
  Whereas the terrorist organization referred to as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and various other names (referred to in this joint resolution as ``ISIL’’) has been systematically targeting, kidnapping, and killing innocent men, women, and children throughout Iraq and Syria, continues to expand its terror influence, and is responsible for recent attacks in Egypt, Lebanon, Tunisia, and France;
  Whereas foreign fighters, undeterred by the more than 60-nation coalition operating against ISIL, continue to join the ranks of ISIL with the goal of establishing a caliphate;
  Whereas, on June 19, 2014, President Barack Obama stated that ``ISIL poses a threat to the Iraqi people, to the region, and to U.S. interests’’;
  Whereas, on August 19, 2014, ISIL released a video of the beheading of an American journalist, James Foley, and threatened to kill more Americans;
  Whereas, on September 2, 2014, ISIL released a second video, of the beheading of an Israeli-American journalist, Steven Sotloff, and again threatened to kill more;
  Whereas a Central Intelligence Agency assessment in September 2014 estimated that ISIL can muster as many as 31,500 fighters in Syria and Iraq alone;
  Whereas, on November 16, 2014, ISIL released yet another video of militant ``Jihadi John’’ standing over the severed head of former Army Ranger Peter Kassig;
  Whereas Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler, a member of a United States Special Forces operations team, was killed during a daring raid on an ISIL stronghold in Iraq to rescue 70 prisoners who were slated to be executed;
  Whereas American hostage Kayla Mueller, a 26-year-old female, was kidnapped and repeatedly raped for almost 18 months by the leader of ISIL, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi;
  Whereas, on November 13, 2015, ISIL carried out a coordinated attack on Paris, France, killing more than 129 people from at least 14 different countries, including American student Nohemi Gonzalez;
  Whereas, on November 16, 2015, Central Intelligence Agency Director Brennan warned, following ISIL’s horrific terrorist in Paris, that the attack was likely ``not the only operation that ISIL has in the pipeline’’;
  Whereas, on August 18, 2014, Pope Francis said that the international community would be justified in stopping ISIL;
  Whereas, on August 21, 2014, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dempsey stated that ISIL ``has an apocalyptic, end-of-days strategic vision and which will eventually have to be defeated’’;
  Whereas, on September 16, 2014, former Secretary of Defense Hagel testified before the Committee on Armed Services of the Senate that ``if left unchecked, ISIL will directly threaten our homeland and our allies’’;
  Whereas, on September 17, 2014, during a hearing of the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate, Secretary of State Kerry stated that ``ISIL must be defeated. Period. End of story.’’;
  Whereas, on March 13, 2015, Central Intelligence Agency Director Brennan stated, ``ISIL is well-armed and well-financed. Its fighters are disciplined, committed, and battle-hardened. Left unchecked, the group
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would pose a serious danger not only to Syria and Iraq, but to the wider region beyond, including the threat of attacks in the homelands of the United States and our partners.’’;
  Whereas, on July 23, 2015, Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Comey stated that ``[t]he threat that ISIL presents to the United States is very different in kind, in type, in degree than al Qaeda. ISIL is not your parent’s al Qaeda, it’s a very different model. And by virtue of that model, it’s currently the threat that we are worried about in the homeland most of all’’;
  Whereas, on November 16, 2015, following the attacks on Paris, France, ISIL released a video threatening to ``strike America at its center in Washington’’;
  Whereas, on November 17, 2015, former Secretary of Defense Panetta warned that countering the threat posed by ISIL ``isn’t about containment. It is about defeating ISIS. I think if there’s anything we ought to understand from these last events [in Paris], it’s that we have to go to war against this brutal enemy’’;
  Whereas after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Congress authorized the use of military force against al Qaeda;
  Whereas ISIL poses a direct threat to the United States homeland that is equal to or greater than the threat posed by al Qaeda prior to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001;
  Whereas, although nothing in this joint resolution limits the authorities of the President under article 2 of the Constitution of the United States, Justice Robert H. Jackson wrote in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579 (1952) that ``[w]hen the President acts pursuant to an express or implied authorization of Congress, his authority is at its maximum, for it includes all that he possesses in his own right plus all that Congress can delegate’’; and
  Whereas ISIL, through the use of social media and its online magazine, Dabiq, seeks to radicalize Americans and to inspire attacks within the homeland: Now, therefore, be it
   Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
  SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
   This joint resolution may be cited as the ``Authorization for Use of Military Force Against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and its Associated Forces’’.
  SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
   (a) In General.—The President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force in order to defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, its associated forces, organizations, and persons, and any successor organizations.
   (b) War Powers Resolution Requirements.—
   (1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1457(a)(1)), Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
   (2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS.—Nothing in this joint resolution supercedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1541 et seq.).
  SEC. 3. REPORTS TO CONGRESS.
   (a) Reports.—Not less frequently than once every 60 days, the President shall submit a report to Congress on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted under section 2.
   (b) Single Consolidated Report.—To the extent that the submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of the War Powers Resolution, all such reports may be submitted as a single consolidated report to Congress.  Â
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You’re absolutely right and yet there are still people here who say “ooh ooh tinfoil hat, that can never happen because we have courts and posse comitatus”. Obama spits on all that stuff.
Will the text include the need to suspend elections during the threat they claim? Will McTurtle support Obama’s resupply of ISIS with weapons too?
A Cease and Desist Letter? Are you kidding me? DO you remember the jerk from CLub for Growth trying to shake down Trump for a million dollar “donation” and when Trump refused to pay, the Club For Growth started doing the nasty? Then Trump’s lawyers sent a Cease and Desist and the nasties stopped...It was only this summer. Didn’t you see the original letter posted here from the Club For Growth demanding a million bucks? Did you read the cease and desist?
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