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Poll: Ted Cruz leads in Iowa; Donald Trump stays atop NH, SC
CBS ^ | 12/20/15 | Staff

Posted on 12/20/2015 7:42:33 AM PST by VinL

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To: usafa92

Moe is not just the lead stooge.


61 posted on 12/20/2015 9:02:40 AM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: Red Steel

Keep telling yourself that. Merely wishing doesn’t make it so. There is something called reality that has a nasty habit of catching up with ya.


62 posted on 12/20/2015 9:02:59 AM PST by SmokingJoe ( .)
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To: parksstp
And how did a Hillary voter 8 years ago become a Trump voter today.

Two words: illegal immigration.

And by the way, you do have a point in your last post. From what I can see from my own experience, Trump is not turning any lefties into conservatives. But Trump is prying some iof those lefties away from the democratic base, at least for now. It's a start.

63 posted on 12/20/2015 9:05:11 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: parksstp

Nevada poll? Where?


64 posted on 12/20/2015 9:05:59 AM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: patq
Ted Cruz has oodles of hard campaign cash and by far the best ground game in the business. Santorum and Huckabee had neither.
65 posted on 12/20/2015 9:06:21 AM PST by SmokingJoe ( .)
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To: SmokingJoe

It’s true Trump is having classes for new caucus goers. Trump enlarges his base. You keep telling yourself if only Cruz wins Iowa he also wins the rest of the United States. LoL.


66 posted on 12/20/2015 9:13:27 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
We could have had Ted at 100-1 odds in Las Vegas just a few months ago. I m not a gambler, but I m kicking myself. We could have made 10k on a $100 bet. Ugh!

LOL! Same here. Them odds makers didn't have a clue. They listened too much to the lamestream media.

67 posted on 12/20/2015 9:13:44 AM PST by SmokingJoe ( .)
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To: LS

In IA you just have to be registered and I think you can register right up to the day of the caucus.

But that’s what Trump’s other issue is. Many people have been coming to his rallies. Apparently, they take down all attendees contact information (phone#/email#, etc), but they haven’t been getting back with the attendees to determine if their registered or would volunteer for the campaign.

Trump’s lagging in the small counties for precint captains. Most of the legwork done to register and get voters to volunteer takes place before Christmas. There is some extra time this cycle since the Caucus isn’t until February, but the groundwork needed to be done months ago.

The RuPaul bots are notorious in IA for hounding people to the caucus to the point you want to slap the sh!t out of them. There that annoying. And yet, not even they could get over 25% statewide and their organization was a machine, which relied heavily on new voters and left-leaning defense doves.

That’s why Trump is in trouble in IA.


68 posted on 12/20/2015 9:14:14 AM PST by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: parksstp

However, you’re assuming 2008 and 2012 are good indicators for 2016. How has that worked so far for the pundits, media and GOPe?


69 posted on 12/20/2015 9:15:05 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: ripnbang

Good point. Trump isn’t the usual GOP candidates like Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, or Huckabee. That would be a big mistake to assume that Trump is like these guys in Iowa. Trump is infinitely better on the campaign trail than these guys.


70 posted on 12/20/2015 9:19:13 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: parksstp
Well, you are basing that on the one report posted here earlier. Sundance has a much different IA "ground game" report. But again, we'll see.

I was running numbers in OH on the "early voting" in 2012 just as you are, with every bit the same certainty. Didn't work out that way at all.

71 posted on 12/20/2015 9:19:28 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Helicondelta
I suspect that Cruz will do much worse than the polls are showing now. In the first sign of trouble the fickle voters will dump him.

The ultimate insult will be that they are going to jump to Rubio. Cruz and his CFG supper PAC have spent many millions on advertising in Iowa, he has completely saturated the market for months. Unless he starts getting Jeb's money he will not be able to keep it up. Trump has spent basically nothing on ads and he has held the top spot since he got into the race.
72 posted on 12/20/2015 9:19:30 AM PST by JoSixChip
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To: Red Steel

Trump is only started having classes for caucus goers this late in the game? Chuckle! Ted Cruz already had the most sophisticated ground game in the business. And he is bringing in an additional crack squad from Texas to further reinforce his already strong ground game in Iowa. Iowa is in the bag for Ted Cruz.


73 posted on 12/20/2015 9:19:40 AM PST by SmokingJoe ( .)
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To: VinL

Completely depends.

It’s a game of expectations too.

If Cruz is expected to win and wins by a small margin, he wont get much of a bump from Iowa.

If Trump is expected to win and Cruz were to win instead, Cruz would get a huge bump.

If Cruz is expected to win, but then not only wins, but wins BIG, then he would get a bump.

Trump has a much lower hurdle to cross to get a massive bump from Iowa in my opinion, because a LOT of professionals dont think his poll numbers will translate to actual votes. So if the votes in Iowa are even CLOSE to what he is polling.... that would basically indicate the race is over and Trump has the nomination.


74 posted on 12/20/2015 9:19:50 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: SmokingJoe

Hey smoke don’t go all delirium for Cruz when cBS blows smoke with a tiny sample sized poll. There’s going to be another poll showing Trump again ahead in Iowa. I’ll point out this poll is soooo ancient like you did up thread. LoL.


75 posted on 12/20/2015 9:23:41 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: JoSixChip
Cruz and his CFG supper PAC have spent many millions on advertising in Iowa, he has completely saturated the market for months.

Ummmm.....no. The one you are talking about is Rubio. Cruz has essentially kept his powder dry and preserved most of his money. That's why He has more cash on hand than anyone else.

76 posted on 12/20/2015 9:24:21 AM PST by SmokingJoe ( .)
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To: SmokingJoe

Beyond that, if I recall correctly, he wasn’t even initially declared the winner. As I recall, Romney got the initial call, and then days later, it was noted quietly in the maimstream media that Santorum finished slightly ahead. So, Santorum didn’t get much of a psychological bump.


77 posted on 12/20/2015 9:24:42 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Red Steel

Cruz will CRUSH Trump in Iowa. It’s not even going to be close. And you can take it to the bank. That Trump overinflated ego is going to take a terrible beating. So sorry.


78 posted on 12/20/2015 9:27:53 AM PST by SmokingJoe ( .)
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To: SmokingJoe
Ummmm.....no. The one you are talking about is Rubio. Cruz has essentially kept his powder dry and preserved most of his money.

That is flat out not true. I drove trough Iowa the day before Thanksgiving and back through a couple of days later. 90% of the ads on the AM stations were political ads and every other one was for Cruz. I did hear them also for Rubio, but not near as many. Not a single one for Trump. That is just the fact.
79 posted on 12/20/2015 9:28:42 AM PST by JoSixChip
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To: SmokingJoe

If Cruz wins in Iowa, and it’s very iffy, he will win by the skin of his teeth. And don’t think Cruz does not have a big ego - he does and it’s a big one.


80 posted on 12/20/2015 9:30:34 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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