To End The FReepathon
Posted on 12/08/2015 10:37:50 AM PST by Timber Rattler
Donald J. Trump on Tuesday defended his call to block all Muslims from entering the United States, casting it as a temporary move in response to Islamic State terrorism, and invoking President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s actions toward Japanese, German and Italian aliens during World War II as precedent.
Mr. Trump, who is handily leading the Republican presidential field in almost every poll nationally and in primary states, spoke in a string of interviews with television morning show hosts, as Democrats fumed over his proposal and Republican reactions ranged from outraged to tepid.
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In a tense exchange with Joe Scarborough on the MSNBC show "Morning Joe," Mr. Trump insisted that fears of terrorism had made policing difficult in places like London and Paris, the site of the Islamic State attacks on Nov. 13 that killed 130 people.
"Paris is no longer the same city it was," he said. "They have sections in Paris that are radicalized where the police refuse to go there. They're petrified. The police refuse to go in there. We have places in London and other places that are so radicalized that the police are afraid for their own lives."
Mr. Trump cited Roosevelt's classification of thousands of Japanese, Germans and Italians in the United States during the war as "enemy aliens" as precedent. He said he was not endorsing something as drastic as the Japanese interment camps. But he nonetheless referred to three proclamations by which Roosevelt authorized government detainment aliens, and which led to the internment of thousands of Japanese and others.
"This is a president highly respected by all; he did the same thing," Mr. Trump said. As the nation was at war in the 1940s, he said, it is now "at war with radical Islam."
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PING...
He’s not backing down. Go Trump!
I’ve already seen a bunch of whiny handwringers moaning about the Japanese internment camps. I haven’t heard Trump or anyone else speak about Muslim internment camps.
If the Democrat/GOP Uniparty objects to Trumps proposal, they should consider changing their laws.
Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate
Kipling had something to say about sovereignty.
Our Lady of the Snows
(Canadian Preferential Tariff, 1897)
A NATION spoke to a Nation,
A Queen sent word to a Throne:
Daughter am I in my mother’s house,
But mistress in my own.
The gates are mine to open,
As the gates are mine to close,
And I set my house in order,
Said our Lady of the Snows.
Neither with laughter nor weeping,
Fear or the child’s amaze—
Soberly under the White Man”s law
My white men go their ways.
Not for the Gentiles’ clamour—
Insult or threat of blows—
Bow we the knee to Baal,
Said our Lady of the Snows.
My speech is clean and single,
I talk of common things—
Words of the wharf and the market-place
And the ware the merchant brings:
Favour to those I favour,
But a stumbling-block to my foes.
Many there be that hate us,
Said our Lady of the Snows.
I called my chiefs to council
In the din of a troubled year;
For the sake of a sign ye would not see,
And a word ye would not hear.
This is our message and answer;
This is the path we chose:
For we be also a people,
Said our Lady of the Snows.
Carry the word to my sisters—
To the Queens of the East and the South.
I have proven faith in the Heritage
By more than the word of the mouth.
They that are wise may follow
Ere the world’s war-trumpet blows,
But I—I am first in the battle,
Said our Lady of the Snows.
A Nation spoke to a Nation
A Throne sent word to a Throne:
Daughter am I in my mother’s house
But mistress in my own.
The gates are mine to open,
As the gates are mine to close,
And I abide by my Mother’s House,â€
Said our Lady of the Snows.
I cited FDR last night. :-)
Good for Trump using history !
Throw it right back Trump! Citing FDR, nice move..
Putting the Japanese Americans in internment camps probably saved some of their lives.
During WW ll, as a kid I personally saw Chinese people dragged out of their cleaning business in Boston, and beaten because they were considered enemies. (people then did not differentiate between oriental groups.)
Had Japanese people been in the neighborhood in that period of time, when crippled soldiers and caskets returned and gold star flags were in peoples windows I think the Japanese could possibly have been Lynched. - Tom
Muslims need to be treated like an ideology, not a religion. We were certainly allowed to exclude communists, even jail them and shut down their places of congregation. Communists wanted to destroy the US constitution, gain power over the nation, and institute a dictatorship predicated on taking everyone's property and redistributing it. The constitution doesn't protect that.
Islam wants to take over the country, destroy the constitution, and institute a system that dehumanizes women and non-believers, and is a theocratic dictatorship. Why would that ever be allowed into this country.
If Muslims want to enter into this country for other than a short visit, they need to be willing to take a pledge. The pledge must state:
1. That they do not believe sharia law should be implemented in the United States in any way, shape or form;
2. That they do not agree with the concept of violent conversion of non-muslims.
3. That they will not practice the Islam or jihad as exemplified by Muhammad, and that the Koran does not guide their actions. In other words, if they want to be muslim, they need a new kind of islam that doesn't justify rape, pillage, killing.
4. That they agree that Israel, as America's ally, has a right to exist, and that there is no place for antisemitism.
Of course, taqqiya makes it difficult to take any pledge seriously. Therefore, there would have to be lots of followup to assure that the person was not lying. Attending a radical mosque, or social media posts, might prove that they had been lying, and they should then be kicked out.
No such pledge will ever be required, but isn't it telling that such a pledge would be required to make muslim immigration possibly acceptable, and no muslim would ever agree to the pledge. So, the conclusion must be: no muslim immigration to the United States.
Blocked immigration, as well as interment and deportations are in order.
The Donald has really stirred up the ants nest now. Mika was just in a state of shock on Morning Joe. I was hooting. :-)
FDR did put the Japanese, Germans and Italians in camps, and he wanted to round up more Germans. Considering how many German decedents there are in the USA at the time, it would be kind hard to fight a war without them. (So he was told, and don’t forget, “Roosevelt” was also German). During the war we had PW camps all over the nation, and for the most part, the prisoners were helpful, they worked on projects and farms. They were even allowed time off and a weekend pass. They were our enemies, but they were civilized and changed their ways and beliefs. Try that with the types we had at Gitmo. Remember when we turned away the S.S.ST LOUIS, which wasn’t a threat and now we let in those who are potentially dangerous to our welfare a free pass? LOL, I can see the honor killings coming to the USA with guns taking most of the blame. Trump is saying what most of the working tax paying public feels.
Not to quibble, but Roosevelt is an old Dutch name.
Man! I love Kipling!! Especially his “IF” poem!!!
wow. this is impressive, even statesman like, from trump. he’s already putting the nation on a war footing. the internment camps and property confiscations for us citizens were a bridge to far, but alas understandable given the attack on pearl harbor. i’m going to have to start reconsidering my previous opinions on trump.
There are lots of empty beds at Guantanamo
it’s a start
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