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It's be hard for the Rats to refute Trump when he cites their hero, FDR, for doing the same thing.
1 posted on 12/08/2015 10:37:50 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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PING...


2 posted on 12/08/2015 10:38:59 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (TRUMP SUPPORTER 100% from day ONE!!!)
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To: Timber Rattler

He’s not backing down. Go Trump!


3 posted on 12/08/2015 10:40:28 AM PST by I want the USA back ( Islam is a violent, world-domination political ideology cleverly disguised as a religion.)
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I’ve already seen a bunch of whiny handwringers moaning about the Japanese internment camps. I haven’t heard Trump or anyone else speak about Muslim internment camps.


4 posted on 12/08/2015 10:40:56 AM PST by euram
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If the Democrat/GOP Uniparty objects to Trumps proposal, they should consider changing their laws.

Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate


5 posted on 12/08/2015 10:41:59 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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Kipling had something to say about sovereignty.

Our Lady of the Snows

(Canadian Preferential Tariff, 1897)

A NATION spoke to a Nation,
A Queen sent word to a Throne:
Daughter am I in my mother’s house,
But mistress in my own.
The gates are mine to open,
As the gates are mine to close,
And I set my house in order,
Said our Lady of the Snows.

Neither with laughter nor weeping,
Fear or the child’s amaze—
Soberly under the White Man”s law
My white men go their ways.
Not for the Gentiles’ clamour—
Insult or threat of blows—
Bow we the knee to Baal,
Said our Lady of the Snows.

My speech is clean and single,
I talk of common things—
Words of the wharf and the market-place
And the ware the merchant brings:
Favour to those I favour,
But a stumbling-block to my foes.
Many there be that hate us,
Said our Lady of the Snows.

I called my chiefs to council
In the din of a troubled year;
For the sake of a sign ye would not see,
And a word ye would not hear.
This is our message and answer;
This is the path we chose:
For we be also a people,
Said our Lady of the Snows.

Carry the word to my sisters—
To the Queens of the East and the South.
I have proven faith in the Heritage
By more than the word of the mouth.
They that are wise may follow
Ere the world’s war-trumpet blows,
But I—I am first in the battle,
Said our Lady of the Snows.

A Nation spoke to a Nation
A Throne sent word to a Throne:
Daughter am I in my mother’s house
But mistress in my own.
The gates are mine to open,
As the gates are mine to close,
And I abide by my Mother’s House,”
Said our Lady of the Snows.


6 posted on 12/08/2015 10:42:17 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled-...by liars who passing refuse the. news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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I cited FDR last night. :-)
Good for Trump using history !


7 posted on 12/08/2015 10:43:07 AM PST by nopardons
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Franklin D. Roosevelt’s actions toward Japanese, German and Italian aliens during World War II as precedent.

Aliens???!!! ALIENS???!!! LEFT WING RACISM!!!!
11 posted on 12/08/2015 10:59:06 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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We need an explanation to the American people as to how Muslim immigration to the US benefits the citizens of the nation. We have never been asked if we want another minority in the country (just as we were never asked about Mexicans, they just let them in--but at least they don't want to kill us en masse, just one DUI at a time). Sure there are good muslims, and there are some ones who do great things in this country. But so long as they retain their Muslim identity, and especially if they are religious or could become religious at some point (attending a mosque, praying, wearing religious garb) they will be very difficult to assimilate into the American culture. Instead they will try to change ours to accommodate them, or they will segregate into neighborhoods where they will run things their own way. Either way, we are better off without them.

Muslims need to be treated like an ideology, not a religion. We were certainly allowed to exclude communists, even jail them and shut down their places of congregation. Communists wanted to destroy the US constitution, gain power over the nation, and institute a dictatorship predicated on taking everyone's property and redistributing it. The constitution doesn't protect that.

Islam wants to take over the country, destroy the constitution, and institute a system that dehumanizes women and non-believers, and is a theocratic dictatorship. Why would that ever be allowed into this country.

If Muslims want to enter into this country for other than a short visit, they need to be willing to take a pledge. The pledge must state:

1. That they do not believe sharia law should be implemented in the United States in any way, shape or form;
2. That they do not agree with the concept of violent conversion of non-muslims.
3. That they will not practice the Islam or jihad as exemplified by Muhammad, and that the Koran does not guide their actions. In other words, if they want to be muslim, they need a new kind of islam that doesn't justify rape, pillage, killing.
4. That they agree that Israel, as America's ally, has a right to exist, and that there is no place for antisemitism.

Of course, taqqiya makes it difficult to take any pledge seriously. Therefore, there would have to be lots of followup to assure that the person was not lying. Attending a radical mosque, or social media posts, might prove that they had been lying, and they should then be kicked out.

No such pledge will ever be required, but isn't it telling that such a pledge would be required to make muslim immigration possibly acceptable, and no muslim would ever agree to the pledge. So, the conclusion must be: no muslim immigration to the United States.

12 posted on 12/08/2015 10:59:22 AM PST by Defiant (There are two Republican parties--the GOPe and the PRP (People's Republican Party). PRP will win.)
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13 posted on 12/08/2015 11:02:36 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Moose do have standing declarations of war against us.

Blocked immigration, as well as interment and deportations are in order.

14 posted on 12/08/2015 11:06:58 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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The Donald has really stirred up the ants nest now. Mika was just in a state of shock on Morning Joe. I was hooting. :-)


15 posted on 12/08/2015 11:07:02 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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FDR did put the Japanese, Germans and Italians in camps, and he wanted to round up more Germans. Considering how many German decedents there are in the USA at the time, it would be kind hard to fight a war without them. (So he was told, and don’t forget, “Roosevelt” was also German). During the war we had PW camps all over the nation, and for the most part, the prisoners were helpful, they worked on projects and farms. They were even allowed time off and a weekend pass. They were our enemies, but they were civilized and changed their ways and beliefs. Try that with the types we had at Gitmo. Remember when we turned away the S.S.ST LOUIS, which wasn’t a threat and now we let in those who are potentially dangerous to our welfare a free pass? LOL, I can see the honor killings coming to the USA with guns taking most of the blame. Trump is saying what most of the working tax paying public feels.


16 posted on 12/08/2015 11:11:15 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (posting)
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wow. this is impressive, even statesman like, from trump. he’s already putting the nation on a war footing. the internment camps and property confiscations for us citizens were a bridge to far, but alas understandable given the attack on pearl harbor. i’m going to have to start reconsidering my previous opinions on trump.


19 posted on 12/08/2015 11:20:02 AM PST by dadfly
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Put Obummer in the first camp, put him on trial as a war criminal for not registering with the US govt as an agent for a foreign power [ISIS], aiding and abetting the ENEMY and put him on trail as A SPY!!


21 posted on 12/08/2015 11:32:20 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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Trump is exactly right, and most everyone knows it BUT He needs to restate what he said because The problem according to napolitano is that he said -muslims- - constitutionally he can-t say that because there is a -religious clause- in the constitution- He CAN however constitutionally say -WE need to ban ALL people from the middle east until we figure out what the hell is going on-

There is no constitutional ban for calling for people from any nation to be banned- Especially when people from ANY nation might pose a direct threat to US citizens- Infact a president has am oral obligation to do just that- there-s only a ban on trying to ban people for their -religious belief-

Of course when trump or anyone says -musli- everyone KNOWS that they are referring to people from the middle east, and NOT to their religious belief (Even though islam is implicated In the violence and everyone KNOWS that!)


22 posted on 12/08/2015 11:50:34 AM PST by Bob434
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ISLAM IS TO HUMANS AS RABIES IS TO DOGS.

—Winston Churchill


25 posted on 12/08/2015 2:31:49 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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