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Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
The New York Times ^ | 21 Nov 2015 | Kamel Daoud

Posted on 11/21/2015 12:35:23 PM PST by Theoria

Black Daesh, white Daesh. The former slits throats, kills, stones, cuts off hands, destroys humanity’s common heritage and despises archaeology, women and non-Muslims. The latter is better dressed and neater but does the same things. The Islamic State; Saudi Arabia. In its struggle against terrorism, the West wages war on one, but shakes hands with the other. This is a mechanism of denial, and denial has a price: preserving the famous strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia at the risk of forgetting that the kingdom also relies on an alliance with a religious clergy that produces, legitimizes, spreads, preaches and defends Wahhabism, the ultra-puritanical form of Islam that Daesh feeds on.

Wahhabism, a messianic radicalism that arose in the 18th century, hopes to restore a fantasized caliphate centered on a desert, a sacred book, and two holy sites, Mecca and Medina. Born in massacre and blood, it manifests itself in a surreal relationship with women, a prohibition against non-Muslims treading on sacred territory, and ferocious religious laws. That translates into an obsessive hatred of imagery and representation and therefore art, but also of the body, nakedness and freedom. Saudi Arabia is a Daesh that has made it.

The West’s denial regarding Saudi Arabia is striking: It salutes the theocracy as its ally but pretends not to notice that it is the world’s chief ideological sponsor of Islamist culture. The younger generations of radicals in the so-called Arab world were not born jihadists. They were suckled in the bosom of Fatwa Valley, a kind of Islamist Vatican with a vast industry that produces theologians, religious laws, books, and aggressive editorial policies and media campaigns.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; agitprop; isis; islam; kameldaoud; ntsa; saudiarabia; wahhabism; wot
Well said, Mr. Daoud.
1 posted on 11/21/2015 12:35:23 PM PST by Theoria
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Greenfield: The US Didn't Create ISIS -- Assad and Saddam Did


2 posted on 11/21/2015 12:46:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I will add my favorite source for Saudi Arabia and Wahhabi's. Frontline: Saudi Time Bomb: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/
3 posted on 11/21/2015 12:53:35 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Theoria

This is a profound and upsetting analysis of Saudi Arabia’s relationship to Islamic terrorism. It makes western policy look—correctly, I think—feckless and ineffective.


4 posted on 11/21/2015 1:04:03 PM PST by American Quilter (Carson/Cruz in 2016)
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To: Theoria

Finally someone identifying the prime enemy.


5 posted on 11/21/2015 1:04:36 PM PST by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: American Quilter

The Saudis have paid us off in low oil prices to keep our mouths shut.


6 posted on 11/21/2015 1:09:16 PM PST by CMB_polarization
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To: Theoria

I can’t believe the New York Times printed this


7 posted on 11/21/2015 1:11:11 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Theoria

I tell you, mecca and Medina need to be destroyed.


8 posted on 11/21/2015 1:13:52 PM PST by vpintheak (Death before disarmament!)
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To: Theoria

yes. and is not just the anti-Christian poisonous ideology...
its all the billions and billions of dollars flowing from Saudi (and Qatar, etc.) funding weapons, overseas training and indoctrination camps (Mosques staffed by IslamoNazi ‘clergy’ selected or trained by the Saudis, military training camps, hate=filled terrorist or protest cells and incitements on hundreds of university and college campuses, and ‘Moslem civil rights activist groups’ in USA and Europe, etc.


9 posted on 11/21/2015 1:15:14 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: Theoria

A fable.

Imagine a wealthy pipsqueak. He is protected by the baddest ass middle linebacker the league has ever seen. Protected by this linebacker, the pipsqueak abuses and torments everyone he meets, knowing that nobody can possibly take on the linebacker who protects him. Realistically it just cannot be done.
Now the pipsqueak actually makes all of his money by selling a single important garden product to the linebacker.
Ever arrogant, the pipsqueak threatens the linebacker and wants to make the rules he must live by inside his own home.

Annoyed, the linebacker wonders why he really needs the pipsqueak. He breaks his neck, confiscates all of his money, and seizes the garden. After all, the whole reason he was hired is that everyone else cannot take him on in a fight.
The pipsqueak overplayed his hand.


10 posted on 11/21/2015 1:20:21 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: vpintheak

The Bible says that temple sacrifice will be restored before the end times.

I assert that if Mecca and Medina are destroyed Islam will collapse and that Temple sacrifice being restored is a good possibility in the disillusionment that will follow.

Only the Shiite and Wahibi will fall away. The Sunni are a punishment for Sarah and Abraham’s sin in casting out Hagar and Ishmael. The descendants of Ishmael will remain as they ever were.


11 posted on 11/21/2015 1:34:24 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Theoria

Mecca should have disappeared under a mushroom cloud on September 12, 2001.


12 posted on 11/21/2015 1:54:48 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: DesertRhino

I like your fable !!


13 posted on 11/21/2015 1:59:06 PM PST by MountainYankee
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To: Theoria

14 posted on 11/21/2015 2:11:52 PM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Was thinking the very same thing

“I can’t believe the New York Times printed this”


15 posted on 11/21/2015 2:48:28 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Theoria
Well said, Mr. Daoud.

I agree.

16 posted on 11/21/2015 4:47:02 PM PST by rdb3 (All I know is like, no, you can't use it.)
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To: MrEdd

Yes. Wild donkey kind of men.


17 posted on 11/21/2015 10:44:03 PM PST by vpintheak (Death before disarmament!)
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