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Ted Cruz : EPIC Plan to DEFEAT Obama-GOPe Illegal Immigration and HALT-PROSECUTE H1B Visa Abuse
Ted Cruz for President Campaign ^ | 2015-11-14 | Patton@Bastogne

Posted on 11/14/2015 11:43:30 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne

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To: datura

If it weren’t for Ted Cruz fighting the Gang of 8 bill, amnesty would already be the law of the land.


41 posted on 11/14/2015 12:59:06 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

As I said, I like Cruz. If I could snap my fingers and make him the President I would. I can’t do that, so I have to be discerning. My list RIGHT NOW has Cruz in 2nd. This should make you happy, not sad.


42 posted on 11/14/2015 1:00:30 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: conservativejoy
If it weren’t for Ted Cruz fighting the Gang of 8 bill, amnesty would already be the law of the land.

The Gang of Eight bill passed the Senate and stalled in the House. The defeat of Eric Cantor probably had more to do with that than anything else.

43 posted on 11/14/2015 1:10:47 PM PST by Will88
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
"Since you have no idea to whom you are communicating with, it seems a bit childish for you to belittle me."

Oh, is this a "don't you know who I am?" kind of post?

Because if it is, we should get something straight. I don't give a flip who you are. Clear enough?

" For some reason it’s not enough for me to say that I like Cruz. Should I swear allegiance?"

I don't care what you do. You did, however, need to be corrected on the issue of Cruz's eligibility.

" Are you trying to convince me, or are you trying to marginalize a potential ally? These candidates will be vetted in a vicious fashion after the primary season. Should we wait until after that to test their weaknesses? Seems a bit myopic to me. Hillary made Obama’s birth an issue 7 years ago. Do you think she’s going to give Cruz a pass?"

Cruz's birthplace isn't a weakness, and if anyone attempts to make it one, he'll shut them down quick enough.

What was your point in bringing it up?

44 posted on 11/14/2015 1:11:51 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Will88

Are you not aware of Cruz’s coordination with House leaders in fighting the Gang of 8 bill?


45 posted on 11/14/2015 1:13:33 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

So what was the point of “love Cruz, but he was born in Canada?”


46 posted on 11/14/2015 1:14:23 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Ok, you asked me a question. In your mind where Cruz is born is a non-issue. Great. And you might be right. Being right doesn’t make an issue go away though. How does this sound?

Hillary for President commercial in November....
“In 2008 the Republicans tried to smear Obama be claiming he was born in Kenya. He wasn’t, they lost, and America won. Now they want you to believe that being born outside of the country doesn’t matter. I wish they would make up their mind.”

Having said that, if Cruz is the nominee no one will work harder that me to secure his victory. If this sounds seditious to you I’m truly at a loss for the words to move this conversation forward.


47 posted on 11/14/2015 1:20:28 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: montag813; conservativejoy

Cruz called CFR “a pernicious nest of snakes...working to undermine our sovereignty.”


48 posted on 11/14/2015 1:22:12 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Will88

The Gang of 8 fight happened in June of 2013. Eric Cantor didn’t leave office until August of 2014.


49 posted on 11/14/2015 1:23:20 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: CatherineofAragon; freedomjusticeruleoflaw

50 posted on 11/14/2015 1:24:45 PM PST by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: conservativejoy

The bill was not going to pass in the House as written. Boner and his gang kept trying to bring up some amnesty bill and spent more than a year threatening and trying. It was thought they’d bring it up during the lame duck session at the end of 2014, but the shock defeat of Cantor ended that plan.

Whether Cruz had any influence in the House is debatable, but he hardly deserves credit for stopping passage of an amnesty bill in the House.

Overall, Ted has been weak to fair on immigration, and his statements this week are a departure from his past positions. He’s even dropping Jeff Sessions name whenever he can.

Trump and Cruz are the only two I could support, but some are going overboard about Cruz’s recent Road to Damascus experience on immigration.


51 posted on 11/14/2015 1:26:00 PM PST by Will88
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To: FreeReign

Thanks for the quote. The idea that Cruz supports anything to do with the CFR’s goals is ludicrous. Nobody has fought harder for our sovereignty than Ted Cruz, winning landmark cases in the Supreme Court against our own POTUS and the World Court.


52 posted on 11/14/2015 1:26:46 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

LOL!


53 posted on 11/14/2015 1:27:41 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: CatherineofAragon

There is a precedent for allowing an American born in Canada become president. If Chester Alan Arthur could be president, why not Cruz?


54 posted on 11/14/2015 1:28:55 PM PST by This I Wonder32460 (Ideas have consequences.)
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To: Will88

Thanks for your views. I do give Cruz credit for leading the fight and bringing the voting public into the fight. The pressure put on the House is what defeated that amnesty bill.

Both Rush and Mark Levin agree, without Cruz, Amnesty would be the law of the land.


55 posted on 11/14/2015 1:30:09 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: datura

I’m not sure which candidate said it, it could have been Trump, I think it might have been Cruz, yet I could be wrong. Someone said start the deportation with the 6,000 illegal immigrants that have been legally ordered to be deported and are not being deported yet because the powers that be refuse to follow the law and deport them. That’s how it is done one or more at a time. It will be an ongoing process, but a necessary one for the protection of legal U.S. citizen Americans.


56 posted on 11/14/2015 1:33:51 PM PST by This I Wonder32460 (Ideas have consequences.)
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To: FreeReign
Cruz called CFR “a pernicious nest of snakes...working to undermine our sovereignty.”

He only said that 2 months ago after a firestorm over his wife began

57 posted on 11/14/2015 1:35:09 PM PST by montag813
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To: conservativejoy
The pressure put on the House is what defeated that amnesty bill.

Several immigration/amnesty bills died in the House before Cruz was even elected to the Senate. The Rubio/Schumer bill died for the same reason the others died: the House is more responsive to what the people desire.

Cruz was not responsible for the most recent amnesty bill dying in the House. Rush and Levin need to review the history of amnesty bills since around 2006.

58 posted on 11/14/2015 1:36:23 PM PST by Will88
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To: Patton@Bastogne

But people might feel bad!


59 posted on 11/14/2015 1:44:44 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
"Cruz was talking about a border fence in 2013,"

No doubt. Talk is something he truly excels at.

60 posted on 11/14/2015 1:47:57 PM PST by moehoward
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