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Ted Cruz : EPIC Plan to DEFEAT Obama-GOPe Illegal Immigration and HALT-PROSECUTE H1B Visa Abuse
Ted Cruz for President Campaign ^ | 2015-11-14 | Patton@Bastogne

Posted on 11/14/2015 11:43:30 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne

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To: Patton@Bastogne

It is presumed that Congress has the power to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants, but why doesn’t anybody challenge this? The Constitution forbids making ex post facto laws——and——if legislative amnesty is anything......it’s an ex post facto law, and clearly is UNCONSTITUTIONAL as such. You simply can’t go back & remake laws after-the-fact for political reason of favoring a certain group coveted for their votes.
A president has the power to PARDON criminals, but I don’t think the Constitution allows Congress or the President to grant immunity from prosecution for political reasons having nothing to do with law enforcement or justice. Illegals should be brought to justice & forced to plead guilty & beg for mercy BEFORE any talk of any pardon......& there should be only limited pardon , if any, ie permanent legal residence (once they are pardonned, they can’t be tried twice for the same crime), but no path to citizenship..and no right to vote—EVER-—for illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants have no right to demand anything. If anything, the American people should be suing illegal immigrants to take any income or property they’ve gotten through being here illegally...and those using stolen or fraudulent identities are lucky we don’t make them rot in a jail cell under multiple felony convictions for their crimes.
Again....why doesn’t anybody ask whence comes Congress’ power even to grant “amnesty” which is both ex post facto unconstitutional law & also illegal, political immunity from prosecution????? Why do Republicans allow themselves to be put on the defensive instead of coming up with affirmative arguments to bury those who malign them & put their opponents on the wrong side of “justice” and the law?????It’s not hard to do....finding the high ground & fighting from the high ground....


21 posted on 11/14/2015 12:10:27 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: montag813

Ms Cruz has quite the establishment resume.


22 posted on 11/14/2015 12:11:57 PM PST by Aria
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To: datura
The key part of Trump’s plan is DEPORTATION. Read much?

NO. Trump mentions deportation in his plan once and it's for the criminal illegals.

You don't read much.

23 posted on 11/14/2015 12:12:05 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Beowulf9

Why doesn’t Ted bring it up, since he is a Senator?

My tag line explains it just fine why he doesn’t.


24 posted on 11/14/2015 12:12:17 PM PST by datura (Check their OWNERSHIP)
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To: CatherineofAragon

You are wrong. You are always wrong. Nothing you say or post is right.

I’m only posting this as a guide post to other freepers who may be drawn in.

If I didn’t know any better I’d think you were Carl Rove except he usually goes by “Vicky”.


25 posted on 11/14/2015 12:12:19 PM PST by Eddie01 (Restaurant managers are doing flybys (it's there job))
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To: FreeReign

No, he says deport them ALL, and then they wait in line to return LEGALLY. Expedite the ones who were productive and working.

Make up your ‘facts’ if you want.


26 posted on 11/14/2015 12:14:10 PM PST by datura (Check their OWNERSHIP)
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To: The Toll

Aha! It is not only me thinking that.


27 posted on 11/14/2015 12:14:26 PM PST by glenduh
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To: The Toll
"Again you continue your daily struggle to drive people away from Ted Cruz."

Only someone with a very weak mind would base his choice of the country's leadership on a faceless internet poster instead of a candidate's record.

28 posted on 11/14/2015 12:17:40 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: datura
The key part of Trump’s plan is DEPORTATION. Read much?

Which will halt about 45 minutes after it starts, pursuant to an order from a Federal judge. Read history much? That's what happened to the enforcement of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. Any candidate who does not move Congress to strip jurisdiction over all aliens from the Federal courts is not addressing this key issue. The rights of aliens within US jurisdiction are NOT the same as for citizens, no matter what the courts say.

29 posted on 11/14/2015 12:19:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: datura

watch the speech ...all illegals get deported ... period ...


30 posted on 11/14/2015 12:20:43 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: CatherineofAragon

Assholes annoy people. It closes their minds to someone they may support.


31 posted on 11/14/2015 12:23:50 PM PST by The Toll
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To: datura
No, he says deport them ALL, ...

No his written plan doesn't say deport them all. It only says deport the criminals.

and then they wait in line to return LEGALLY. Expedite the ones who were productive and working.

Over-and-over again Trump has said they should be expedited back in without them waiting their turn in line.

Make up your ‘facts’ if you want.

No you're the one making up "facts".

32 posted on 11/14/2015 12:24:23 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: The Toll

Like I said...


33 posted on 11/14/2015 12:26:53 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Eddie01
"You are wrong. You are always wrong. Nothing you say or post is right."

Okay. Good to know.

BTW, it's "Karl", and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be a Cruz supporter.

34 posted on 11/14/2015 12:30:04 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Aria

100% desperation BS. Cruz has had all year to disavow his longstanding support for 500% increase in H1B. He has zero credibility on his blatant flip-flop.


35 posted on 11/14/2015 12:48:40 PM PST by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: montag813
Sorry folks, but I DON'T TRUST Cruz on immigration. He previously called for a MASSIVE increase in H1-B visas and an INCREASE in legal immigration

I hear you - it's not confidence-inspiring that he had to feel the heat before seeing the light. But there are no perfect candidates for the nomination; for example, Trump called Romney's plan "harsh" (or was it "cruel"), and was just a couple of years ago saying liberal things on a number of other issues.

36 posted on 11/14/2015 12:51:10 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: montag813

Cruz is addressing where we are right now on legal immigration and the H1-B visa issue. His immigration plan remedies the impact of those two issue on American workers.

I haven’t seen Heidi Cruz’s name on the ballot. She was forced to be a term member of CFR as a condition of her employment. Both she and John Bolton, who is also a member, represented the conservative viewpoint on issues there.

You are really stretching to find issues to smear Cruz with.


37 posted on 11/14/2015 12:53:23 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Guenevere

Don’t forget that if it weren’t for Ted Cruz fighting the Gang of 8 bill, we would already have amnesty.


38 posted on 11/14/2015 12:54:25 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Since you have no idea to whom you are communicating with, it seems a bit childish for you to belittle me. For some reason it’s not enough for me to say that I like Cruz. Should I swear allegiance? Are you trying to convince me, or are you trying to marginalize a potential ally? These candidates will be vetted in a vicious fashion after the primary season. Should we wait until after that to test their weaknesses? Seems a bit myopic to me. Hillary made Obama’s birth an issue 7 years ago. Do you think she’s going to give Cruz a pass?


39 posted on 11/14/2015 12:55:44 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: The Toll

I just made this same point to her.. Assuming it’s a her.


40 posted on 11/14/2015 12:57:34 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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