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Once again, greedy capitalists moving jobs overseas for pure profit. Oh. Crap. Not so fast. Is it possible that some jobs moved "offshore" are the result of the ever increasing rules, regs, requirements foisted on producers by the epa, osha and a myriad compilation of government alphabet agencies lookin' out for folks? Business Busters Incorporated.
1 posted on 11/07/2015 9:14:45 AM PST by rktman
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yup, this is the true culprit, when you need a product, are you going to shop around for the least expensive for your own business?

these sob stories we always here...can someone breakdown the built in costs of all this, showing the american product vs the foreign product??

i bet that would be an eye opener for most folks.


2 posted on 11/07/2015 9:24:00 AM PST by raygunfan
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Doesn’t bode well for strategic readiness, either. A happy byproduct for Obama.


3 posted on 11/07/2015 9:24:08 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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Isn’t cheap aluminum what we ALL want? After all, we got cheap TVs, cheap wallboard, even some cheap gasoline-powered scooters and leaf blowers.

Of course, if China ever gets greatly peeved with us, we probably lose about half or more of our war material feedstock....

But hey, our air is clean, right? (OK, ffolkes, there was a VAST amount of sarcasm buried in there, but this note is necessary to just let a few get a peek behind the curtain.)


5 posted on 11/07/2015 9:26:08 AM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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6 posted on 11/07/2015 9:26:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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It looks to me as the US aluminum industry is all but gone already.

Mostly over regulation has killed it.

My industry struggles to survive with crushing and meaningless regulations as does that of my brother in law. We both see the end of our own way of making a living disappearing in the United States. It will soon be just too hard to continue here.


7 posted on 11/07/2015 9:29:22 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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Dumpster divers and chinese political prisoners who work in bauxite mines hardest hit.


8 posted on 11/07/2015 9:29:24 AM PST by SpaceBar
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This aluminum situation is actually high treason by the American Uniparty.

There's no other way to describe it.

9 posted on 11/07/2015 9:29:52 AM PST by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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PS: Make it simple.

A LOT OF INDUSTRY HAS NOT LEFT THE UNITED STATES.

IT HAS BEEN PUSHED OUT BY REGULATIONS!


10 posted on 11/07/2015 9:30:11 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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Back when I lived in WA 12 years ago, Alcoa was having difficulties with EPA regs - now it seems, coupled with cheap overseas prices, they are getting ready to throw in the towel ...

However, it has been a long time modus operandi of the Chinese to force an American company to the point it is no longer profitable, then swoop in and either buy the assets or the company.


11 posted on 11/07/2015 9:31:40 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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You can forget about WA state Gov. Jay Inslee lifting a finger to halt this.......he is a Deacon desiring to become an Archbishop in the Globalwarming religious order.


12 posted on 11/07/2015 9:31:43 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Hope the holland tunnel gets the makeover I suggested.)
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Aluminum production is a very energy intensive process. Obama’s war on the coal industry and China’s embrace of coal-fired power plants give China a great competitive edge.


13 posted on 11/07/2015 9:33:12 AM PST by monocle (Kendall)
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I recall that GWB tried to protect the domestic steel industry, with the result that manufacturers who relied on steel were suffering due to increased costs. I also recall that ultimately he was forced to remove the tariffs.


14 posted on 11/07/2015 9:39:03 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Sanders/Cruz in 2016!)
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Don’t worry ... no matter how many people are laid-off or forced from the workplace, “Obama’s Unemployment Rate” is gonna stay near 5% ...


15 posted on 11/07/2015 9:39:29 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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Here, let me name the FOUR branches of gov’t;

Executive
Legislative
Judicial
Regulatory

Not all the above are coequal. Not all beholden to the public.


16 posted on 11/07/2015 9:40:27 AM PST by umgud (v)
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Ever wonder how much influence the Chinese have in D.C. to make those regs and rules come about? They’re not stupid, you know.


17 posted on 11/07/2015 9:46:57 AM PST by Moltke
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Aluminum. Check!

Coal. Check!

Lead. Check!

What's next?

18 posted on 11/07/2015 9:49:39 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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Manufacturing is leaving the country. It’s not coming back. Thank you, both parties.


21 posted on 11/07/2015 9:56:59 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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That is the way I view it. The slide of American industry that began in the Sixties is due to the effects of liberalism on industry, when the radicals began to gain power.

Over-legislation

Over-regulation

Over-litigation

Unions


27 posted on 11/07/2015 10:46:30 AM PST by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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And taxes..


28 posted on 11/07/2015 10:57:34 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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And people are wondering why Boeing is chomping at the bit to move operations to china.


30 posted on 11/07/2015 11:09:42 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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