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Cockpit voice recorder confirms explosion on Russian plane that crashed in Egypt, according to....
France 24 ^ | 11-06-2015 | France24

Posted on 11/06/2015 9:20:43 AM PST by tcrlaf

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To: Slicksadick

I think I saw the pictures of the flight recorders at the Daily Mail. The story line was they were too heavily damaged and showed them all twisted up.


61 posted on 11/06/2015 10:16:52 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: meatloaf

I think I saw the pictures of the flight recorders at the Daily Mail. The story line was they were too heavily damaged and showed them all twisted up.


62 posted on 11/06/2015 10:17:05 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: arthurus
Satellite infrared shows a flash and a separation. It shows no missile launch r flight.

I had read that as well. That's why I always thought it was a bomb that some Islamic Militant had snuck on to the aircraft.

It's the ground crew people. Watch the Egyptians find them floating in the Nile at some point.

63 posted on 11/06/2015 10:22:25 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: INVAR

That is all well and good, but the video that was posted was obviously a fake.

Islamic terrorism may have been the cause, maybe even a missile - but that video was most certainly not any evidence of it. And if ISIL or one of its affiliates used a surface to air missile of any kind, why would they post an obvious fake video when they could have shown the real thing?

I’d still guess it was either an accident or a bomb. I don’t think we should totally discount the possibility that the plane was just not maintained well and had a catastrophic failure. More and more it looks like a bomb if you believe the various news reports, but I don’t think that is definitive right yet.


64 posted on 11/06/2015 10:22:30 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: arthurus
Satellite infrared shows a flash and a separation. It shows no missile launch or flight.

IF you trust the obama administration to accurately report facts that reflect poorly on muslims...

65 posted on 11/06/2015 10:23:03 AM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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To: SkyDancer
I think I saw...

Okay

Okay

Okay

Okay

We get it! ;-)

66 posted on 11/06/2015 10:24:13 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous
Theoretically, it could mean the end of "safe" air travel anywhere in the world as we currently enjoy it.

And wouldn't that be a major goal for the Islamists and the Church of Global Warming Alarmist allies?

Just imagine all the 'greenhouse gasses' that would suddenly stop if ISIS was able to end safe air travel for the little people?

67 posted on 11/06/2015 10:25:52 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

I can’t wait to see the REAL ‘shock & awe’ that Putin is probably working on as we speak. Muslims are going to have their faces melded to their prayer rugs after he’s done with them.


68 posted on 11/06/2015 10:29:50 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: null and void

A bomb in the tail has more psychological impact because it shows depth of planning, having a mole on the inside perhaps.. Lots of fear of the unknown. Perhaps a luggage swap? A SAM requires knowledge of flight schedule and good target acquisition, that is all.


69 posted on 11/06/2015 10:32:57 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: amorphous
Just being polite in answering those that posted to me. :)

Just being polite in answering those that posted to me. :)

Just being polite in answering those that posted to me. :)

Just being polite in answering those that posted to me. :)

70 posted on 11/06/2015 10:37:17 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: INVAR

Sorry, no MANPAD goes to 31-36000 feet. Igla-S which was the Russian MANPAD taken in quanity from libya only goes to 16K feet.

MANPAD and SAMs are not the same - one is aunched from the shoulder, the other is truck mounted with radar tracking. The Russia Buk system, a SAM, was one such which shot down the plane over the Ukraine.


71 posted on 11/06/2015 10:37:46 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Nope, no terrorism, just a routine explosion.


72 posted on 11/06/2015 10:39:29 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: tcrlaf

Has anyone heard from Clockmed since this crash? Was he on the passenger list?


73 posted on 11/06/2015 10:40:39 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: INVAR

Sounds like flight 800. Allegedly witnessed by 300 people who were told by the FBI investigators “who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?”


74 posted on 11/06/2015 10:41:39 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: tcrlaf
If this is confirmed solidly, Putin will take action. Like Al Capone. He'll find who planted it and have them killed. Then he'll kill their family. Then he'll probably kill all the ground crew that were on duty at the time. He'll send a message of some sort.


75 posted on 11/06/2015 10:41:59 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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To: tcrlaf

photo earlier that showed the inside of the jet’s entry hatch had shrapnel on the inside.
Meaning a bomb from inside.


76 posted on 11/06/2015 10:44:28 AM PST by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: INVAR

Ha Ha, we must believe in Santa Claus too, the plane was over 30,000 feet in the air.


77 posted on 11/06/2015 10:46:36 AM PST by BeadCounter (,)
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To: INVAR
I don’t buy that spin. Not for a second.

Okay, the systems you describe also paint an elint signature for anyone around to see. They're not point-and-shoot, they're guided. You're saying no one in the area got ears on that? Russians, Western govts, Israel? No one?

78 posted on 11/06/2015 10:46:58 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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To: SkyDancer

LOL!


79 posted on 11/06/2015 10:50:22 AM PST by amorphous
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To: INVAR

I saw the alleged video, and there was no smoke trail
Nor was the video shaky enough to convine me they shot a 30000 foot high aircraft

If the video is real, they used a tripod and no smoke showed from the middle, because no missile at that range would be smokeless, needs too much fuel for speed and range

If video real, definitely a bomb


80 posted on 11/06/2015 11:00:29 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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