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Gun Rights Advocates Have A Devastating New Argument Against Gun Control. Here It Is.
The Journal -Independent Journal Review ^ | July 2015 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 10/23/2015 12:10:43 PM PDT by Torcert

American gun owners are beginning to respond with a fresh, powerful argument when facing anti-gun liberals. Here it is, in its entirety. Ready?
“Screw you.” That’s it. Except the first word isn’t “Screw.”

It’s not exactly a traditional argument, but it’s certainly appropriate here. The fact is that there is no point in arguing with liberal gun-control advocates because their argument is never in good faith.They slander gun owners as murderers. They lie about their ultimate aim, which is to ban and confiscate all privately owned weapons. And they adopt a pose of reasonability, yet their position is not susceptible to change because of evidence, facts or law. None of those matter – they already have their conclusion. This has to do with power – their power.

You can’t argue with someone who is lying about his position or whose position is not based upon reason. You can talk all day about how crime has diminished where concealed carry is allowed, while it flourishes in Democrat blue cities where gun control is tightest. You can point to statistics showing that law-abiding citizens who carry legally are exponentially less likely to commit gun crimes than other people. You can cite examples of armed citizens protecting themselves and their communities with guns. You can offer government statistics showing how the typical American is at many times greater risk of death from an automobile crash, a fall, or poisoning than from murder by gun.

But none of that matters, because this debate is not about facts. It’s about power. The liberal anti-gun narrative is not aimed at creating the best public policy but at disarming citizens the liberal elite looks down upon – and for whom weapons represent their last-ditch ability to respond to liberal overreach.

Put simply, liberal elitists don’t like the fact that, at the end of the day, an armed citizenry can tell them, “No.”

So they argue in bad faith, shamelessly lying, libeling their opponents, and hiding their real endgame. Sure, sometimes the mask slips and a liberal politician like Mike Bloomberg or Diane Feinstein reveals their true agenda, but mostly they stay on-message.

For example, Barack Obama, who always tries to reassure us bitter clingers that he doesn’t want to take our guns, speaks longingly about the Australian plan – which was confiscation of most viable defensive weapons from the civilian population.

Obama is lying – about gay marriage, about your doctor – and he is likewise lying about guns. The minute he could disarm every American civilian he would, something particularly alarming in light of his pal Bill Ayers’ infamous observation that ‘fundamentally transforming’ America would require killing at least 25 million citizens.

No wonder free Americans are done pretending the gun argument is a rational debate and are responding with an extended middle finger – and the challenge to come and take their arms. The fact remains that any outright attempt to take the arms from tens of millions of American gun owners would almost certainly result in a second Civil War. And we all know how the first Civil War went for the Democrats.

So, through a campaign of shaming, dissembling, and outright slander, liberals are trying to talk Americans into giving up their weapons voluntarily. There’s always another “common sense” restriction to enact, spurred on by a tragedy that the last “common sense” restriction didn’t prevent and that the proposed new “common sense” restriction would not have prevented. They want to do it in baby steps, and with our cooperation, since they cannot do it by force.

So until the gun control argument becomes a real argument instead of a transparent power grab, there’s only one appropriate response to liberal gun banners. And it’s similar to “Screw you.”


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KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; guns
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[Note: I slightly modified the title of the piece to make it more clear the subject matter]
I for one am sick and tired of being blamed for the actions of a few usually leftist lunatics.

And I'm sick and tired of the usual routine of the #nationalSocialistLeft trying to incrementally destroy our rights with scams like Intergalactic Background Checks.

You can't ‘compromise’ with someone who is lying about their ultimate intention - Gun CONFISCATION.

And you can't ‘compromise’ with someone who will be back time and time again with more demands about surrendering your freedom.

1 posted on 10/23/2015 12:10:43 PM PDT by Torcert
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To: Torcert
I arrived at this very conclusion about all liberals, and all liberal arguments.

I no longer bother to argue with liberals, I just yell EFF YOU and leave the thread.

2 posted on 10/23/2015 12:12:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Lazamataz

I second that FU and raise you a FUUFF’s.

Give up my weapon, give up my freedom....ain’t gonna happen.


3 posted on 10/23/2015 12:15:56 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Lazamataz

yep

that is my basic strategy, too.

I do it in person, as well..... makes for great conversation with my wife afterwards.


4 posted on 10/23/2015 12:16:49 PM PDT by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Lazamataz

Agreed.
Don’t forget to add the “Mic drop” at the end. Just for effect :)

Really pisses them off. The argument for these people is all they want anyway, and ain’t nobody got time for that!


5 posted on 10/23/2015 12:17:17 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: Torcert; All

I just say ‘nunya’...as in ‘nunya bidness...if you don’t want a gun don’t have one...just don’t tell me what to do.’


6 posted on 10/23/2015 12:18:28 PM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: Torcert

You can’t have them. Not if you want to see tomorrow. This argument is over.


7 posted on 10/23/2015 12:18:31 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Torcert
A nicer way to pit it.


8 posted on 10/23/2015 12:18:32 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Torcert

The war is coming.
Make no mistake.


9 posted on 10/23/2015 12:18:39 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Torcert

Not to blow my own horn, but I’ve posted a link to this article about a dozen times over the last two months.


10 posted on 10/23/2015 12:21:28 PM PDT by Duckdog (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: Torcert

Our rights are non-negotiable.

Sorry.


11 posted on 10/23/2015 12:23:06 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Lazamataz

I’m pretty much a believer in the screw you theory of gun rights. No matter what any libtard nut does or says we are not giving up the guns or registering them. Not gonna do it.


12 posted on 10/23/2015 12:23:18 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Da Coyote

“The war is coming.”

Let it come. If not now when?


13 posted on 10/23/2015 12:25:10 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: notdownwidems
I just say ‘nunya’...as in ‘nunya bidness.

also 'argo' ... as in 'argo f### yourself'

argo! nunya!

14 posted on 10/23/2015 12:26:52 PM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Torcert

You don’t argue with the zealots to change their minds. You argue with them to keep the mushy middle folks from accepting their arguments.

BTW, the NRA has been running some great commercials on Fox news lately. I love the one with the black woman who lives in a housing project talking about the government threatened to kick her out if she bought one.


15 posted on 10/23/2015 12:28:56 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: Tzimisce

Our rights are non-negotiable.

Sorry.


That’s it in a nutshell.

I’ve told libs that “How dare you want to deny me the ability to protect myself and my loved ones? How dare you?”


16 posted on 10/23/2015 12:30:44 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Lazamataz
I arrived at this very conclusion about all liberals, and all liberal arguments.

I no longer bother to argue with liberals, I just yell EFF YOU and leave the thread.

This is where I am currently. There is no reason to argue with liberals anymore because there is--well--no reason to their arguments.
17 posted on 10/23/2015 12:30:49 PM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: Georgia Girl 2; All

“The war is coming.”

“Let it come. If not now when?”

Better it come under a Donald Trump Administration, after the new Congress passes Universal carry recognition under the full faith and credit clause, and the Second and Fourteenth Amendments.

Then the war can start with federal troops forcing New York and California to abide by the Constitution.


18 posted on 10/23/2015 12:31:43 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Torcert
I heartily approve, and add my codicil to the parting shot:

"[Screw] you, A-hole!"

19 posted on 10/23/2015 12:31:56 PM PDT by W. (I piss fire and acid upon the militant muslims as they pray to their baby-raping god!)
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To: Torcert

20 posted on 10/23/2015 12:32:01 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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