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Scott Walker’s campaign takes hit after second debate
Daily Cardinal ^ | September 21, 2015 | Andrew Bahl

Posted on 09/21/2015 4:26:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

When Gov. Scott Walker took the stage last Wednesday for the second Republican debate, it was amid popular opinion that the onetime poll leader needed a strong showing to regain his form.

Yet many in the media are questioning whether Walker delivered that type of performance, with commentators throughout the state and nation wondering if the governor was able to convey his ideas when he had the least speaking time of the 11 candidates.

Walker campaign manager Rick Wiley said his candidate looked strong in his brief sparring with current front-runner Donald Trump and that his message came across even when he wasn’t speaking.

"Gov. Walker wore his Harley boots tonight, and it showed ... He put Donald Trump in his place early on, and the billionaire never recovered," Wiley said in a statement following the debate. "Even when he wasn’t speaking, Walker’s ideas … dominated the discussion.”

The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza disagreed, writing that Walker’s presence at the debate was almost nonexistent.

“If anyone needed a moment (or three) in this debate, it was the Wisconsin governor. He didn't get one,” Cillizza wrote immediately after the debate. “Despite a relatively prime stage position -- he was standing next to Jeb Bush in the center-right of the stage -- Walker was sort of a nonentity. He needed to make headlines; he didn't.”

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s Patrick Marley noted that while Walker was more aggressive than in the first debate, other candidates were more adept at breaking in to make points.

“Walker wasn't as successful with this strategy as some others,” Marley wrote. “By contrast, former Hewlett-Packard executive Carly Fiorina and others often refused to be cut off.”

Still, despite Walker’s polling numbers continuing to dwindle, Harry Enten, a political analyst for fivethirtyeight.com, said that he has time to make up ground before primary season hits.

“It’s September 2015. The Iowa caucus is scheduled for Feb. 1, 2016. Unless Walker is running out of money, it’s not that dire,” Enten said during a live blog of the debate.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016debates; 2016election; 2016polls; election2016; gopprimary; polling; scottbot; scottbots; scottwalker; walker; wisconsin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good man but didnt catch on. Wish him the best and thank him for his service.


41 posted on 09/21/2015 7:01:37 AM PDT by rrrod (Just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.)
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To: bigtoona
You are 100% right.

By the way, back in my rock and roll days, our singer and guitarist from Mississippi used to go around asking girls (would be groupies, they hoped) "Have you met Big Tuna?"

42 posted on 09/21/2015 7:12:05 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: bigtoona
the jiggering the GOP did to the primary delegates to favor jebbie are actually going to help Trump

Yes. This is pretty obvious.

43 posted on 09/21/2015 7:13:30 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: mac_truck

I think Walker is gonna surprise people in Iowa by finishing top three there.

I think Trump will also surprise people in Iowa by not finishing top three.


I think you’re going to see how Trump is able to win campaigns. He’s going to start in Iowa. He is NOT leading in the polls there now; I predict he will WIN when the time comes.


44 posted on 09/21/2015 7:15:41 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

>>govern

You are totally stuck on this concept.


45 posted on 09/21/2015 7:20:59 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What has your candidate done to show their chops - accomplishments that give us proof of how they’ll govern?

My candidate is Ted Cruz, and if you don't agree with his views and his life accomplishments that's your choice.

You still refuse to address the Walker ANCHOR BABY...


46 posted on 09/21/2015 7:28:56 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Respectfully, Jeb Bush (IMO) may be the nominee but he will not win. There is no road to the Presidency for the Man With No Name. His nomination would be not so much a fork in the road but a detour that leads to the same place, the breakup of the old GOP coalition. The base, the actual voters, will not vote for him.

Walker is very dangerous to the RATs. In order to defeat them you must defund them. He's done so effectively.

Good man. It's a shame.

47 posted on 09/21/2015 7:35:58 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I was one of those donors.


48 posted on 09/21/2015 7:39:08 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: USS Alaska
Walker strikes me as a person with few core values. I'm not convinced that his assault on public sector unions was based on principle as much as it was just finding an issue he could demagogue and use to rouse public anger.

He has been a political low life even as far back as college and has historically surrounded himself with unprincipled hacks willing to do his dirty work so he doesn't get any "stuff" on himself.

49 posted on 09/21/2015 7:51:02 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Beware the Wisconsin Weasel - GOPe Plan B)
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To: samtheman
A leader is someone who moves opinion, they do not follow it. Trump to this point has done so effectively; he's moved his personal numbers. The candidates and the pundits are talking about what Trump is talking about. The left is on their heels.

Still, it's not yet time for the Trump ladies to redecorate the White House.

We're witnessing a breakup of traditional political coalitions. There's no logical reason for much of the RAT base to support the party, and the last 15 years has taught conservatives the same for the GOP. Remember a mere 15 years ago, when we thought removing Bill and preventing Algore would guarantee success? How sweet...how naive.

The candidate who presents a feasible plan to push back against the establishment, and possesses the ability to go around the media, can win. Trump is potentially that candidate.

50 posted on 09/21/2015 8:03:35 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: Resettozero

“It’s September 2015. The Iowa caucus is scheduled for Feb. 1, 2016. Unless Walker is running out of money, it’s not that dire,” Enten said during a live blog of the debate.”

Somebody has scored some really good weed. :-)


51 posted on 09/21/2015 8:14:05 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: LS

Lol, I wish that was me, sounds like it was a good time!


52 posted on 09/21/2015 8:46:21 AM PDT by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever. Trump is the only hope.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; onyx; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Another analysis of Walker’s sudden decline in the polls.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


53 posted on 09/21/2015 10:49:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Danggit. I like the guy, but it will be nice to have him back here in Wisconsin to continue to grind the Socialists’ faces into the gravel, LOL!


54 posted on 09/21/2015 10:51:24 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Fantasy Administration Team.”

That’s a million-dollar idea right there, targeting us Political Geeks as they do for Fantasy Football Fans!


55 posted on 09/21/2015 10:55:02 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Grrrrr! I truly expected him to go further than this.


56 posted on 09/21/2015 10:56:01 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He won the Illinois straw poll Saturday. Don’t count him out just yet.


57 posted on 09/21/2015 11:29:40 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (www.ouramericanrevival.com)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

See post 57.


58 posted on 09/21/2015 11:37:32 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (www.ouramericanrevival.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“However you want to see it, frame it, slice, dice and sell it, Trump is clearing the path for a Jeb Bush presidency.”

How so? I see Jebbie doing it to himself at the moment. I’m interested in understanding your perspective.


59 posted on 09/21/2015 11:51:28 AM PDT by speedracerx (The fate of our great nation lies in the hands of conservatives!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Your analysis misses two very key points: first if jebito is the nominee, he loses because millions of erstwhile gop voters stay home and whatever dreck the rats run wins by default. The gop can play whatever games it wishes to in the primaries. The nominee they pick still has to get enough votes to win the general.

Second, your analysis assumes that Trump loses. He is currently leading the polls by a significant margin. Other than wishful thinking, how do you explain that he will lose the nomination?


60 posted on 09/21/2015 12:20:08 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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