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Kim Davis, Rightful Prisoner of Conscience
National Review ^ | 09/04/2015 | Kevin D. Williamson

Posted on 09/04/2015 7:02:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/04/2015 7:02:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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“The proper course of action for a government official who has a moral objection to carrying out his public duties isn’t obstruction but resignation.”

America is dead. It's because a majority of “conservatives” think this way.

2 posted on 09/04/2015 7:07:17 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many Clerks in liberal States issued Gay Marriage Licenses against the STATE LAWS, not a court decision but STATE LAWS, in some cases STATE AMENDMENTS TO STATE CONSTITUTIONS!

Remember Proposition 8 in KaliFornia?

I wonder how many liberal clerks were Imprisoned going against that..... Probably Zero, they just got a tiny welt on their wrist after their slap on their wrist....


3 posted on 09/04/2015 7:08:04 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/5-29-13.cfm


4 posted on 09/04/2015 7:09:23 AM PDT by TitansAFC (2016: 1. Palin, 2. Cruz, 3. Huckabee (to make the GOP-E see what WE go through) 4. Walker)
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To: GraceG
Here's a Liberal Argument that needs to be refuted...

5 posted on 09/04/2015 7:10:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

Too complex for Donald Trump to understand. He thinks judges passed laws and we should only obey.

A real revolutionary there, not.


6 posted on 09/04/2015 7:11:15 AM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: SeekAndFind
This author is an idiot. I'm really sick of people like this. Just go be a liberal if you don't know that natural law and States’ rights trumps the decree of 5 reprobates.
7 posted on 09/04/2015 7:11:19 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind
John Brown was in the wrong for what he did, and I believe he knew it. But he couldn't square his manhood and his love of country with the evil of slavery, and his conscience left him no choice but to act. If we all had the fortitude to face evil so boldly, evil would hardly have a square foot of turf upon which to grow and take root.

I see Kim Davis committing a true act of civil disobedience, and not shrinking from the consequences.

8 posted on 09/04/2015 7:12:17 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Hillary/Cruz in 2016!)
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To: SeekAndFind

As somebody here on FR mentioned yesterday, what’s the difference between Davis’ choice and that of Rosa Parks?


9 posted on 09/04/2015 7:13:32 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: SeekAndFind
Did the Quaker win an election? What is the state law? Is it an abomination to own a gun?
10 posted on 09/04/2015 7:13:41 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The thing is that it cant be refuted.

We would call for him to be removed from the post or we would be screaming about how he could have been elected in the first place.

I posed this question regarding gun laws that were struck down by SCOTUS, and so far no one has been able to answer.


11 posted on 09/04/2015 7:17:20 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind
From OBERGEFELL:

Page 5:

Finally, the First Amendment ensures that religions, those who adhere to religious doctrines, and others have protection as they seek to teach the principles that are so fulfilling and so central to their lives and faiths.

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Finally, it must be emphasized that religions, and those who adhere to religious doctrines, may continue to advocate with utmost, sincere conviction that, by divine precepts, same-sex marriage should not be condoned. The First Amendment ensures that religious organizations and persons are given proper protection as they seek to teach the principles that are so fulfilling and so central to their lives and faiths, and to their own deep aspirations to continue the family structure they have long revered.

If the judge is going to cite the Supreme Court ruling, then where is this protection? Were there not other alternatives short of imprisonment that could have taken first, if they were serious about protecting the First Amendment rights, too, during all of this?

Furthermore, if we are to have a "rule of law" as the author suggests, then must stop judicial legislation and let the laws that rule us come from our representatives, not as edicts from a "judge."

Page 5:

(5) There may be an initial inclination to await further legislation, litigation, and debate, but referenda, legislative debates, and grassroots campaigns; studies and other writings; and extensive litigation in state and federal courts have led to an enhanced understanding of the issue. While the Constitution contemplates that democracy is the appropriate process for change, individuals who are harmed need not await legislative action before asserting a fundamental right.

There is the judicial arrogance for all to plainly see. The country doesn't have to wait for the representative process to work, because these few judges have an "enhanced understanding" and know better than the rest of us.

The Separation of Powers doesn't apply to them, and the separation of powers didn't apply to Kim Davis when an appointed judge jailed an elected executive.

-PJ

12 posted on 09/04/2015 7:22:00 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: demshateGod
America is dead.

Suicide.

13 posted on 09/04/2015 7:22:07 AM PDT by madprof98
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That's not a good example, and doesn't need to be refuted. The whole notion of a "gun permit" is completely incompatible with a free citizenry whose legal protections for self-defense are enshrined in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

A better example would be a radical Muslim who works in the Department of Motor Vehicle and refuses to grant driver's licenses to women based on some religious objection to women driving.

14 posted on 09/04/2015 7:23:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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If she has to resign, then that is a violation of the “religious test” clause of the U.S. Constitution.

The *ONLY* way for the FedGov to do what their doing is to pass a Constitutional amendment that:

1. Delegates to the Fed the authority to define marriage.

2. Vacates the “free exercise” and “religious test” clauses of the Constitution when they conflict with Fedzilla’s definition of marriage.

Anything else is *TYRANNY*.


15 posted on 09/04/2015 7:27:20 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply i)
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16 posted on 09/04/2015 7:39:16 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I see Kim Davis committing a true act of civil disobedience, and not shrinking from the consequences.

Martin Luther King Jr. said: “An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law”

I stand with Kim Davis.

17 posted on 09/04/2015 7:42:29 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: madprof98
Suicide.

Death by electing Progressive Liberal Democrats and worthless Republican RINO's I think is more accurate.

Oh wait, that's suicide.

Nevermind, Carry On!

18 posted on 09/04/2015 7:45:37 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Kim Davis was given a harsh penalty to serve as an example to others. I’m heartened that at least one other Kentucky clerk has joined her in refusing to issue licenses. More, please.


19 posted on 09/04/2015 8:17:48 AM PDT by ntnychik
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The other clerk is her son.

-PJ

20 posted on 09/04/2015 9:09:52 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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