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How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
CSMonitor ^ | July 6 2006 | John Dillon

Posted on 08/23/2015 3:33:06 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

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To: CodeToad
This country wouldn’t have an illegal alien capable of a job anywhere.

There still the CRIME job market.

21 posted on 08/23/2015 3:54:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sparklite2

Require e-verify with imprisonment for failure to comply. Arrest and jail some wealthy homeowners who use illegals’ lawn services and wetback nannies. Load up a freighter with illegals of any provenance but mostly Spanishoid taken from all over the country and leave it in the harbor at Vera Cruz with the engine permanently disabled. Run a dozen busloads down to Southern Mexico and accompany them with armor and drones in case the Mexicans choose to try to bar the caravan. In other words do some very public moves like that and you only have to actually deport a very small percentage. Definitely include visa overstays in the ceremonies.


22 posted on 08/23/2015 3:55:24 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

We’ve never lacked the ability to secure our borders, our security, and our sovereignty. We simply lack the political will to do so.

The problem is with the character of those who take the oath.


23 posted on 08/23/2015 3:55:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: arthurus

E-Verify amounts to sacrificing fundamental liberties for a false sense of security.

E-Verify requires every American to be in a government database, and to get permission from bureaucrats in the government in order to work and earn their daily bread.

That is the antithesis of freedom.

That kind of power over the people is the first means of control needed to implement the mark of the beast, frankly.


24 posted on 08/23/2015 4:00:39 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: arthurus
Start filling every last empty seat on the flights to Cozumel with illegals. If Mexico pitches a fit, give them the option of having this continue, or all tourism trade from the US ended.
25 posted on 08/23/2015 4:03:47 PM PDT by Clay Moore (Keep JRandomFreeper in you prayers)
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To: sparklite2

“Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada”.

60 years ago and still looking for the illegal vote by selling out America.


26 posted on 08/23/2015 4:04:06 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christian raisin', an 8th grade education,Ain't no need y'all treatin' me this way")
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To: jmacusa

“Operation Wetback”.

Great name. Now call an illegal a wetback and your life is ruined forever.


27 posted on 08/23/2015 4:05:40 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christian raisin', an 8th grade education,Ain't no need y'all treatin' me this way")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

We don’t even need to do what Ike did.

1) Tax “remittances” to any country at 90%.

2) Make being in the US illegally a felony. You have 180 days to get your affairs in order and leave the USA voluntarily. We will accept your application for residency at a box on the border. If caught here illegally, convicted and deported they are never allowed to enter the US for any reason, ever. If you are apprehended, and convicted of a violent felony as an illegal alien, you are headed for the firing squad.

3) Make illegal return under section 2 punishable by execution within 24 hours of conviction if caught and convicted a second time.

They will leave on their own.


28 posted on 08/23/2015 4:06:03 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: sparklite2

http://www.thestarpress.com/story/money/2015/08/23/hicks-deportation-follies/32071259/

“We could even charge a fine or fee for those who entered illegally, but who have afterward been law-abiding citizens. This would enable us to more easily deport the folks who are actual criminals and allow us to support communities with high concentrations of immigrants. I don’t think that idea will be much talked about, though. It is too easy, sensible and cost effective. Instead we hear calls for mass deportation.”

Of course he’s apparently ignorant to the fact that over 90% of recent “immigrants” from central America who were released and given court dates, well, they simply FTA’D (failed to appear) and melted away to safe houses.
It seems likely they would ignore the fines, doesn’t it? That they would probably take the amnesty—that those like you would demand as a quid pro quo—for the (sham) agreement to pay fines, and other nonsense, and run.
The good professor doesn’t really explain how charging a fine that no one really plans to enforce (like the entire 1986 amnesty act) would help us deport “folks who are actual criminals” (obviously he doesn’t think they are broken any laws) and how (or why) the (unpaid) fines should go to support communities with lots of “immigrants”.

This author’s excuse is that he’s an economist and educator.

“Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to seriously penalize employers hiring illegals?”

You’ve been around FR long enough to have been exposed to the reality of the Uniparty and dealing with illegal aliens.

Other than being a noob, what’s your excuse for the consistently fatuous GOP-e propositions you are always posting as solutions to this serious problem?


29 posted on 08/23/2015 4:06:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: EternalVigilance

We are already in numerous government databases that are all connected, not to mention the NSA database. Every time your car has a police car overtake it in the next lane the tag is photographed and your location, speed, etc., go into the police database which is accessible to the feds. That is one of many many examples.


30 posted on 08/23/2015 4:06:24 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Elsie

“There still the CRIME job market. “

Sure, but with fewer illegals around it would be easier to target the crime.


31 posted on 08/23/2015 4:06:52 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Clay Moore

Very good, that.


32 posted on 08/23/2015 4:07:12 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The laws are there. All it takes is a will to uphold the oath and Constitution.

Why this pos and bush arent impeached is a sin.


33 posted on 08/23/2015 4:10:00 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Wow! Most of them self-deported!

Which i think everyone here knows instinctively


34 posted on 08/23/2015 4:10:48 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

In response to some “Freepers” who raise the specter of Adolf Hitler and “thousands and thousands of SWAT members” when other Freepers say that we can deport our illegals.

We can do it, and it’s not as hard as they make it out to be.
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Thanks for posting. It’s somewhat disheartening to see so many “FReepers” and constitutional conservatives being low-information and/or defeatist on this issue. Both ignorance of the issues and defeatism are inexcusable IMHO.


35 posted on 08/23/2015 4:13:57 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: tumblindice

Oh, my solution?

First, secure the border. That’s the sine qua non.
Then, begin identifying and deporting aliens here illegally.
Finally, start *fining* employers using illegal aliens and enforce payment of the fines.
The problem we have now is, now they don’t think we’re serious, and they’re right.
We just have to get serious. Trump sounds serious.

It ain’t rocket science.


36 posted on 08/23/2015 4:14:32 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: arthurus
We are already in numerous government databases

Yeah. That's always the first thing people say when I point out how bad E-Verify is. But it's a non sequitur.

The only list of We the People authorized by our Constitution is the census head count every ten years. And that shouldn't even have names attached, unless the individual citizen wants to give it. Just a head count. That's it.

37 posted on 08/23/2015 4:14:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: ASA Vet

Uh dude V corps ceased to exist on 12 June 2013.

We barely have a divisions worth of troops in Europe.


38 posted on 08/23/2015 4:15:07 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Making harmless people defenseless, does not make dangerous people harmless)
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To: sparklite2

Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to seriously penalize employers hiring illegals? Drying up employment prospects should incentivize illegals to go back home.
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There’s not a reason in the world why we couldn’t do both. A nation such as ours is perfectly capable of multi-tasking. This is a multi-faceted problem which needs to be attacked on multiple fronts.


39 posted on 08/23/2015 4:15:43 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

If Trump gets in office and implements his plan to deport all illegal aliens, its not going to go smoothly like it did in the 1950s. There are millions of them now, living in homes, owning property, possessing firearms. Whole towns are majority Hispanic now. I could see martial law being implemented in places and the military being used to expedite the process as safely and as orderly as possible. Even then, it will be the biggest mess we’ve ever seen.

With all that being said, I am 100% behind Trump in getting this Herculean task accomplished. It needs to be done and if anyone can get it done, its him. Nobody else has the brains, balls, or political willpower to do this except Trump. Never doubt it will be ugly, though.

But I’m ready for ugly. Go Trump!


40 posted on 08/23/2015 4:16:34 PM PDT by ballearthout
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