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DONALD TRUMP ENDORSES AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS [DISAPPOINTING, BUT NOT SURPRISING]
Frontpage Mag ^ | 07/26/2015 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 07/26/2015 5:49:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Disappointing, but not surprising.

The depressing reality though that is that most of the Republican field has endorsed amnesty in one form or another. So this isn't much of a surprise. Trump is using his own vocabulary, but he's echoing the same amnesty talking points you could hear from Marco Rubio... or Barack Obama.

During Friday's interview, Trump said the U.S. should take a two-step approach to the 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the country.

"Well, the first thing we do is take the bad ones — of which there are, unfortunately, quite a few," said Trump, who owns three New Jersey golf courses and once owned three Atlantic City casinos. "We take the bad ones and get 'em the hell out. We get 'em out."

But he said the country should take a different approach with "the other ones" — i.e., undocumented immigrants who have "done a good job" since arriving in the U.S.

"I'm a very big believer in the merit system," Trump said. "I have to tell you: Some of these people have been here, they've done a good job. You know, in some cases, sadly, they've been living under the shadows. ... If somebody's been outstanding, we try and work something out.

"But before we do anything, we have to secure the border because the border is like having no border," he added.

I'm sure some people will be tempted to cheer this, but compare it to Obama's own amnesty executive order.

These executive actions crack down on illegal immigration at the border, prioritize deporting felons not families, and require certain undocumented immigrants to pass a criminal background check and pay their fair share of taxes as they register to temporarily stay in the U.S. without fear of deportation.

Cracking Down on Illegal Immigration at the Border:  The President’s actions increase the chances that anyone attempting to cross the border illegally will be caught and sent back. Continuing the surge of resources that effectively reduced the number of unaccompanied children crossing the border illegally this summer, the President’s actions will also centralize border security command-and-control to continue to crack down on illegal immigration.

Deporting Felons, Not Families: The President’s actions focus on the deportation of people who threaten national security and public safety. He has directed immigration enforcement to place anyone suspected of terrorism, violent criminals, gang members, and recent border crossers at the top of the deportation priority list.

Deporting the "bad people" first is already an Obama talking point. People may think they can trust Trump, but not Obama or any of the Republicans, but like them, Trump frontloaded rhetoric about enforcement while keeping the amnesty out back.

And "secure the border first" has been the talking point of every Republican amnesty proponent.

Marco Rubio still supports legal status and a slow road to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants, but now says the government must convince Americans the border is secure before taking those steps.

Trump had already indicated support for amnesty earlier, now he's being clearer about it.

This is in line with what CNN’s Chris Moody reported Trump saying during a press conference in Chicago at the end of June. When asked what he would do about the illegal immigrants already residing in the country once the border was secured, Trump replied, “give them a path,” according to Moody.

When The Daily Caller sought clarification at the time from the Trump campaign, a senior adviser replied with a circuitous answer that emphasized that Trump wanted to secure the border and didn’t believe in “amnesty,” but wouldn’t explicitly reject a pathway to legalization.

Nobody likes the A-word, including Rubio and Ryan who spent the better part of a year arguing that legalizing illegal aliens isn't amnesty if they have to pay a fine. Even Obama made that argument.

The next step would be to get Trump to lay out criteria for who gets to stay and how many of them it would apply to, but good luck getting an answer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York; US: Texas
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To: SeekAndFind
Now can we stop pretending he's a conservative at all, let alone the Great Conservative Savior?

He's just a thinner Chris Christie - loudly yells at people we don't like, but that doesn't mean we should like him.
201 posted on 07/27/2015 1:35:02 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Yaelle
That's a very good start, and I would add a #6: eliminate/amend the "anchor baby/birthright citizenship" laws so illegals coming in lose all claims to benefits just because they happen to enter our country & have a baby within our borders.

I'm afraid that rounding up illegals by the trainload and deporting millions of them - as some here propose - just ain't gonna happen. The toothpaste is already out of that tube, unfortunately. Make it unpleasant for the freeloaders & they'll self-deport. There are hard workers among them. Those that want to add value to our society can move to the back of the line and use the proper & legal channels to remain.

202 posted on 07/27/2015 2:30:31 AM PDT by mellow velo
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To: SeekAndFind
Redux of an overhead and general comment - he's adamant about securing the border and getting the worst out ASAP.,

The logistics once that is done will be trying and there won't be an easy and quick fix no matter anyone's desires or philosophies on the matter.

203 posted on 07/27/2015 3:47:15 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: highball

Open Borders/Amnesty Walker, no thanks, wont vote for him.


204 posted on 07/27/2015 3:58:55 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Ray76

Little lies and big lies have something in common, they are both lies and lies rather big or little are nothing to build on.


205 posted on 07/27/2015 5:36:26 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: kabar
LOL.... You are living fantasy land.

Here is where Walker said is for open borders and Amnesty. This is from the Wall Street Journey March, 2015.

“Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker told a private dinner of New Hampshire Republicans this month that he backed the idea of allowing undocumented immigrants to stay in the country and to eventually become eligible for citizenship, a position at odds with his previous public statements on this matter”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/walker-backs-path-to-citizenship-at-private-new-hampshire-dinner-1427390295?mod=djemalertPolitics

For the record, I will not vote for your boy Walker. It's Trump or Cruz as far as Republicans.

I guess you think Boehner and McConnell have done a great job helping Obama pass all his legislation. The 2014 election was about stopping the Administration. Instead it's been the best gift to Obama.

I guess you are happy with that, and you think more of that will save us?

Finally, Walker is unelectable. The media and the DNC are going to bash him for being a college drop out. You may be good with that, but the majority of people are not. That's why the majority of higher end jobs all require college degrees.

Walker is an Establish, back up fall guy. He will lose just like Jeb.

206 posted on 07/27/2015 5:50:07 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: kabar

Thanks for that.


207 posted on 07/27/2015 7:27:12 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“He says the immigrants here working, can work through the immigration process along with all the rest of the immigrants”.

Sure it’s working...millions of Americans unemplopyed and millions more underemployed!!!

He’s also for building a real fence, along all 1,800 miles of our border.????

The city manager said that the immigration solutions Laredo needed did not include more border fences. Asked by reporters if this changed his own promise to build a wall along the border, Trump said more walls were needed on some parts of the border.

I no longer trust Trump!!!

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/donald-trump-mexico-border-visit-120542.html#ixzz3h6nW2umD


208 posted on 07/27/2015 10:00:13 AM PDT by Ductos Exemplo (the RULE OF LAW)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Donald, get your facts straight. We have at least 30 million illegals here.

Trump didn't mention "11 million" - the interviewer did.

209 posted on 07/27/2015 10:53:13 AM PDT by montag813 (Bring Back Tar and Feathers)
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To: mellow velo

Yes, thanks for your #6. I believe that only babies born to mothers legally here should become Americans. It will be important to give tourist visas only to people who have checked a box that they are not pregnant.

Yes, pregnant woman shouldn’t be allowed to travel here even as tourists. It’s come to that because of the Chinese who come here pregnant, give birth, and leave. Either no pregnant people allowed even on tourist visas, or else no one gets citizenship unless their parent is a citizen or legal resident. That works too. We must stop birth tourism and anchor babies.


210 posted on 07/27/2015 11:22:23 AM PDT by Yaelle (Trump is the Political Plumber, flushing out the PC sewer. So what if we see a little butt crack?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Disappointing? Is Greenfield that naïve? Trump’s a DNC Trojan Horse.


211 posted on 07/27/2015 2:18:04 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: conservativejoy
I saw the speech live. At no time did Trump ever indicate amnesty.

It wasn't a speech the article refers to, it was an interview last Friday and an earlier press conference in June.

212 posted on 07/28/2015 4:37:10 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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