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Scott Walker: ‘I hope in the future we’ll re-establish the Patriot Act’
Washington Times ^ | June 3, 2015 | David Sherfinski

Posted on 06/03/2015 12:40:07 PM PDT by C19fan

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To: eartick
It may have removed it but you can bet those traitorous basturds are still doing it.

The government spent $1.5 billion on this complex out in the middle of Utah specifically for the storage of metadata. Are they going to turn it into a skating rink?


61 posted on 06/03/2015 2:38:54 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Mr. Jeeves
It is important to never back men, but ideals

Excellent philosophy!

62 posted on 06/03/2015 2:40:25 PM PDT by grania
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To: eartick
It may have removed it but you can bet those traitorous basturds are still doing it.

Well, if you truly believe that, logically, you must also believe that if they did away with the Patriot Act, they'd still be doing that as well, right?
63 posted on 06/03/2015 2:43:14 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: C19fan

Dead to me.


64 posted on 06/03/2015 2:52:20 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Of interest...


65 posted on 06/03/2015 2:54:31 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SoConPubbie
"You know that is not true. The USA Freedom Act removed the ability of the NSA to gather Phone and Email records without a warrant. " You are slightly uninformed or delusional... This bill was a joke at restoring Constitutional Rights. Please read: ....................... as the USA PATRIOT Act by Simon Black on June 3, 2015 US-Freedom-act-spying June 3, 2015 Buenos Aires, Argentina My general rule of thumb when it comes to legislation is that the more high-sounding the name, the more insidious the law. Exhibit A: the just-passed USA FREEDOM Act. “Freedom”. It sounds great. So great, in fact, that they stuck it in the title and built an absurd acronym around it– the real name of the law is “Uniting and Strengthening America by Fulfilling Rights and Ensuring Effective Discipline Over Monitoring Act of 2015″. U-S-A-F-R-E-E-D-O-M. Hooray! And without fail, the media has bought in to the myth, praising the government for heralding in a new era of liberty with headlines like “Congress Reins In NSA’s Spying Powers” and “NSA phone program doomed as Senate passes USA Freedom Act”. Unfortunately this is simply not the case. And shame on the mainstream media for making such thinly-researched, fallacious assertions. If anyone had actually taken the time to read the legislation, they’d see that most of the ‘concessions’ made by the government are entirely hollow. Secret FISA courts still exist. Lone wolf surveillance authority and roving wiretaps still exist. They can still grab oodles of other data like medical and business records. And the US Attorney General has even been awarded new ’emergency powers’ to use in his/her sole discretion… just in case the secret courts might be uncooperative. The big victory being cheered by the media pertains to the collection of phone records. This one is actually hilarious. The USA FREEDOM Act prevents the government from seizing and storing ‘call detail records’, the so-called meta-data information like your phone number, the other caller’s phone number, the length of the call, etc. But section 107(k)(3)(B) of the new law specifically states that ‘call detail records’ do NOT include the *actual content* of the call itself. Or your name. Address. Financial data. Cell-site location. Etc. So basically they can’t archive your phone number. But everything else is fair game. Congratulations on your freedom." ....................... http://www.sovereignman.com/trends/its-official-the-usa-freedom-act-is-just-a-destructive-as-the-usa-patriot-act-17105/
66 posted on 06/03/2015 2:55:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: SoConPubbie
"You know that is not true. The USA Freedom Act removed the ability of the NSA to gather Phone and Email records without a warrant. "

You are slightly uninformed or delusional... This bill was a joke at restoring Constitutional Rights. Please read:

.......................

as the USA PATRIOT Act

by Simon Black on June 3, 2015 US-Freedom-act-spying

June 3, 2015 Buenos Aires, Argentina

My general rule of thumb when it comes to legislation is that the more high-sounding the name, the more insidious the law.

Exhibit A: the just-passed USA FREEDOM Act.

“Freedom”. It sounds great.

So great, in fact, that they stuck it in the title and built an absurd acronym around it– the real name of the law is “Uniting and Strengthening America by Fulfilling Rights and Ensuring Effective Discipline Over Monitoring Act of 2015″.

U-S-A-F-R-E-E-D-O-M. Hooray!

And without fail, the media has bought in to the myth, praising the government for heralding in a new era of liberty with headlines like “Congress Reins In NSA’s Spying Powers” and “NSA phone program doomed as Senate passes USA Freedom Act”.

Unfortunately this is simply not the case. And shame on the mainstream media for making such thinly-researched, fallacious assertions.

If anyone had actually taken the time to read the legislation, they’d see that most of the ‘concessions’ made by the government are entirely hollow.

Secret FISA courts still exist. Lone wolf surveillance authority and roving wiretaps still exist. They can still grab oodles of other data like medical and business records.

And the US Attorney General has even been awarded new ’emergency powers’ to use in his/her sole discretion… just in case the secret courts might be uncooperative.

The big victory being cheered by the media pertains to the collection of phone records. This one is actually hilarious.

The USA FREEDOM Act prevents the government from seizing and storing ‘call detail records’, the so-called meta-data information like your phone number, the other caller’s phone number, the length of the call, etc.

But section 107(k)(3)(B) of the new law specifically states that ‘call detail records’ do NOT include the *actual content* of the call itself. Or your name. Address. Financial data. Cell-site location. Etc.

So basically they can’t archive your phone number. But everything else is fair game. Congratulations on your freedom."

.......................

http://www.sovereignman.com/trends/its-official-the-usa-freedom-act-is-just-a-destructive-as-the-usa-patriot-act-17105/

67 posted on 06/03/2015 2:57:10 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: SoConPubbie
The USA Freedom Act removed the ability of the NSA to gather Phone and Email records without a warrant.

But it also placed the burden of storing the phone and email 'metadata' squarely on the phone companies, which then have to produce it to Big Brother on demand.

So nothing really changed except procedure and the storage location.

68 posted on 06/03/2015 2:57:47 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: C19fan
Mr. Walker, a potential 2016 GOP presidential candidate, said on “Fox and Friends” that he thinks “we would be much better off” with a full reauthorization.

The world would be better off without Sharia Law and Islam, but no candidate would say that.

69 posted on 06/03/2015 2:59:41 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Bryanw92

Where are you on the ballot, I’m looking high and low...


70 posted on 06/03/2015 3:12:12 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: C19fan

Note to Walker: The Rick Perry 2012 self-immolation tour is not the campaign style you really want to adopt.


71 posted on 06/03/2015 3:20:04 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Lazamataz

They’re all bought and paid for. Every. Single. One. Their motivations are a lust for power and wealth. The Constitution, our culture, the middle class all mean nothing to them. All that matters is that in the end, they’re the one who gets to hold the whip.


72 posted on 06/03/2015 3:25:53 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools.)
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To: C19fan

So Walker can’t seem to find the correct side of the Patriot Act argument, Cruz has a thing for more alien workers, Paul is his father’s son, Rubio is all-in on Amnesty, Jeb is also and he hates me and my children....this is getting depressing and it’s only June 2015.


73 posted on 06/03/2015 3:26:00 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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To: Boogieman

After the next 9/11 style attack it will be the right side of the issue


74 posted on 06/03/2015 3:27:24 PM PDT by woofie
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To: grania

“How do you explain Cruz supporting Obama on the secret trade deal?”

*****

Fast track authority is not approval of the deal sight unseen. It permits the President to negotiate the deal and then bring it to the Senate for an up or down vote without having it substantially altered by amendments.

From what we’ve heard so far, the final deal presented to the Senate will likely be hated by both the left and the right and will have an uphill battle getting a majority. More likely to be successfully filibustered.

If Cruz votes in favor of the final deal to make it law of the land, then you’ll be thoroughly justified in branding him a sell-out. We’ll see.


75 posted on 06/03/2015 3:38:50 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Hillary Kardashian Clinton - famous for being infamous)
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To: Augustinian monk

“Who is fighting against that?”

Good question. Deserves an answer.

Union cancels Boeing vote, claiming gun-toting workers told it to take off.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/24/union-cancels-boeing-vote-says-gun-toting-workers-told-it-to-take-off/

Officials in Connecticut Stunned by What Could Be a Massive, State-Wide Act of ‘Civil Disobedience’ by Gun Owners

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/13/tens-of-thousands-of-connecticut-gun-owners-may-be-staging-a-massive-act-of-civil-disobedience/

The Nazi propaganda press refuses to report the numerous incidents where ordinary Americans refuse to obey the government fascists. These stories have been embargoed from national distribution by the liars in the media. State legislatures, sheriffs and citizens have the federal fascists running in circles, trying to tamp out a thousand brushfires.


76 posted on 06/03/2015 3:39:23 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: C19fan

Walker was my plan B, but not now. What a dipsh*t he is.


77 posted on 06/03/2015 3:41:45 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

now , now........ consider the overall picture. Narrow mindedness is counter productive


78 posted on 06/03/2015 3:46:33 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: Dagnabitt
So Walker can’t seem to find the correct side of the Patriot Act argument, Cruz has a thing for more alien workers, Paul is his father’s son, Rubio is all-in on Amnesty, Jeb is also and he hates me and my children....this is getting depressing and it’s only June 2015.

Agree with the first five. On the first two (Walker, Cruz), as there are only 2-3 issues that we have to corral them in on, we have our best chance with them. With Cruz, we can discuss the philosophical underpinnings (H1B, trade issues), with Walker we can appeal as members of his supporting constituencies (he got better on Common Core when Wisconsin talk radio turned up the heat a year or so ago).
79 posted on 06/03/2015 3:59:53 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: C19fan
Damnit.

Every time I think I find a decent POTUS candidate they go and espouse a position that is a deal breaker for me.

And I'll never again vote for a "lesser of two evils".

80 posted on 06/03/2015 4:06:03 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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