Posted on 06/02/2015 7:13:53 AM PDT by maggief
I finf if there are libertarians on a topic reguarding police that they are very negative.
ANYTHING that comes between them and their access to recreational drugs is a crime, even though what THEY do finances all the drug cartels and maybe even some Islamic Terror.
I'm sure you are aware of anti-gang laws.
But anyway, it's not particularly surprising to hear that someone who was having lunch with criminal gang members got shot or arrested, for whatever reason. It's about as surprising as rain on a monday.
Of course it would be possible to get shot...I have the sense I'm taking my life in my hands downtown Seattle certain nights. The Seattle PD being what it is, one worries about them as much as the thugs. So it's possible I could be arrested too.
But 170 bikers, complete with $1M bail handed out as a participation award? I can understand (if not approve) of an "arrest them all and we'll sort it out later" mentality. This appears to be a "prove to the judge you've done nothing wrong" mentality. That's abuse of process.
Again, you've employed the broad generalizations, not me. That's intellectually indefensible.
Again, moving forward...it's possible some will accept plea bargain agreements. I predict most will go to trial and most will be acquitted. Some convicted will be overturned on appeal.
I do not have to approve of the lifestyle of bike gangs. It only becomes my business when they cross a legal line. On the other hand, I DO have to approve of the actions of government...because as Americans and Conservatives we believe in LIMITED government.
If you are so far removed from the real world that you think for one nanosecond that two thirds of "criminal gang members" don't have police records ....
Well, frankly, I don't think you're that naïve or stupid. What I think is that YOU are a paid operative and will remember it -- I keep LISTS. NOBODY could be that stupid as to buy that all 170 were "criminals" when barely one in three has an arrest record. In Texas -- again, maybe they do in other states, but ZIP about this story indicates that this was convergence dominated by out-of-state criminal bikers.
You guys -- as of now I count only 18 of you among a total of 63 individuals on a number of threads on this forum -- are coming out of the woodwork. I know that some of those 18 are authentically real FReepers who are just lazy or confused or angry or have lived extremely sheltered lives, but ONLY SOME of them.
It isn't rocket science. It isn't difficult. All one has to do is to use common sense after reviewing the reported FACTS, a major one being that only about one third of those arrested have criminal records, and THAT ALONE give anyone with any brains, experience, and critical thinking skills enough info to figure out what is going on here. I just cannot bring myself to believe that you are that stupid or naïve. Hence I can only conclude that you have another agenda.
Ping to my post 104.
Well said. You have a lot of patience.
Thank you.
You say you don’t expect to get shot or arrested when you go for lunch. Sure, if you’re going for lunch with grandma. But if you are dining with the Mexican Zetas then good luck to you and let’s not hear any complaints if something unexpected happens.
If I'm in a potentially dangerous area or situation, I'm assuming a certain danger. That doesn't mean I sign a waiver...IOW, yes, if I'm shot, I will complain. As I should.
It's one thing to think you may be caught in a gang dispute; something worlds different when the bullet that injures you was paid for by taxpayers.
Why do you believe the restaurant was/should have been a free fire zone?
If you believe that "law and order" justifies excess, just say so. At least we could respect your clarity of thought, if not the result.
You're playing word games here, which is a waste of time.
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