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Can Gays Turn Straight? What the Evidence Says About “Ex-Gay” Therapy.
Slate ^ | April 20, 2015 | Nathaniel Frank

Posted on 04/20/2015 3:12:57 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar

Well they say they are “born that way”. But if that’s true, then what do homos do, hold their noses and have sex with women often enough to keep passing along the gay gene? Otherwise this characteristic would die out, as gays can’t reproduce without engaging in non-gay behavior or through artificial means, which has only recently been possible.

Surely they don’t expect us to believe that every so often the human genome is mutating to kick out a gay person. If that were true we’d have an equal percentage of the population with two heads and other genetic anomalies.

Unless of course they’re not “born that way” after all, just just choose to be that way, like other people choose to engage in criminal behavior, worship trees, or whatever.


41 posted on 04/20/2015 3:48:43 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: dp0622

Not so sure about animosity to the Gipper, as that the devil likes to take the most innocent, virtuous thing he can find (innocent and virtuous in a relative sense) and corrupt it to the maximum because that is how he punks God.

Strangely enough, “redneck” is a fairly popular meme in the homo crowd. Those strong, wholesome, Christian/religious rednecks make big sport for the devil when he can do it. And those who aren’t very spiritual can be goaded into kicking their keister, feeding the illusion.


42 posted on 04/20/2015 3:49:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I like what you said there. Very good...


43 posted on 04/20/2015 3:50:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: bigbob

Being born doesn’t mean just genetics.


44 posted on 04/20/2015 3:50:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DoughtyOne
As with those other therapies, you have to want to get help.

And why would they want to? They're having a gay ole-time.

They don't have to get dates, enter into commitments, they just get out there every night, mix it up with strangers, and ejaculate till they drop.

45 posted on 04/20/2015 3:52:24 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Liberala are “anti everything” that isn’t liberal. A mental disease they have for sure.


46 posted on 04/20/2015 3:54:38 PM PDT by Fungi (So you think you know anything about evolution? Think again.)
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To: EveningStar; All

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 indicates that people struggling with same-sex temptations can turn straight by the grace of God.


47 posted on 04/20/2015 3:55:34 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Envious?


48 posted on 04/20/2015 3:55:59 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

That’s pretty much what takes place in bath-houses frequented by the homosexual core constituency.

I have seen some homosexual lament their proclivity. I think those who were lured into it have second thoughts.

The conversion therapy isn’t going to work for them all.


49 posted on 04/20/2015 3:59:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Being born...

That's their main lie. The truth is; they are recruited by "chicken hawks" before they can discover girls.

50 posted on 04/20/2015 4:00:04 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: MoochPooch
Part of the difficulty in discussing this is an ambiguity in definitions.

I think some of the attempted therapies in the past were both demeaning and futile: for instance, electro-convulsive shock, aversion conditioning, etc. But these are therapies which were used for a wide variety of psychiatric maladies in decades past, including depression, psychosis and bipolar disorders --- not just homosexuality.

These have been superseded by better approaches. All therapeutic intervention should not be discredited, just because some approaches in the 1950's and '60's rightly fell out of favor.

I mean, Good Lord! Now the APA wants to "treat" gender dysphoria with castration and a lifelong regimen of induced hormonal abnormality!

Counseling a kid who wants to find greater harmony via reducing unwanted sexual urges and strengthening his normal response pattern is both professionally ethical and a compassionate response to the young person's felt need.

51 posted on 04/20/2015 4:00:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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To: trisham

No, are you?


52 posted on 04/20/2015 4:00:54 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: bigbob

How about abortion of a gay baby? Is That ok?


53 posted on 04/20/2015 4:01:39 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

You made the post.


54 posted on 04/20/2015 4:02:13 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

You got to choose... victim or willing


55 posted on 04/20/2015 4:03:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I guess you never really knew any. They are such miserable souls.


56 posted on 04/20/2015 4:04:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It has to be voluntary, as in wanting to get it right before God. Because people were pressing them to do it, probably will not work.


57 posted on 04/20/2015 4:05:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: EveningStar

I would not want to be in Speier’s shoes on Judgment Day


58 posted on 04/20/2015 4:06:52 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: trisham

Yeah, did I say something that wasn’t true?


59 posted on 04/20/2015 4:07:50 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Sin has its pleasures for a season.


60 posted on 04/20/2015 4:09:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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