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Rubio, Norquist Push Back Against Anti-Immigration Groups
ABC Univision ^ | Feb 14, 2013 | Ted Hesson

Posted on 04/20/2015 2:33:13 AM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

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To: odawg

My feeling is that not being pro-immigrant is not the equivalent of being anti-immigrant.

Personally, I think we have too much legal immigration in this country. I think our government these past years has been trying demographically manipulate the make up of this country, frankly.

I also believe that this current government is derelict in their duty to the nation as whole in allowing the definition of “refugee” to be abused in the approval for many immigrants to this country who have been schooled in ways to get accepted.

Additionally, this government does not do due diligence in forcing employers to conclusively prove an H1-B immigrant is their sole recourse to fill needed positions.

Lastly, this current government (and even past Republican controlled administrations) have forsaken the original requirement for immigration in that someone, a sponsor relative or the immigrant himself, must swear that the immigrant will not become a public burden (this was done when my wife came here in 1976 - I had to complete an affidavit to that effect).

I am not anti-immigrant. I only want to ensure there is real value added to this country and that the process was fair and unbiased - without political maneuvering.


21 posted on 04/20/2015 5:59:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Wrong word choice on my part. I meant, obviously, and should have used, “pro-immigration” or “anti-immigration”. If a candidate on stage would make the same slip of tongue, there would be a national convulsion of horror. We are conditioned that way.


22 posted on 04/20/2015 6:25:42 AM PDT by odawg
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To: manc

I also do not accept the crap about breaking up families because the family is more than welcome to leave with them. If I were illegally in some foreign country, and they deported me, my “act of love” would be to take my intact family back home so we could remain together.

I also note they don’t mind breaking up families when its time to ship their minors up to the border, sitting on TOP of a freight train.


23 posted on 04/20/2015 6:26:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: odawg

I don’t think your use of what you wrote was wrong. I was just adding to your comment some of my own thoughts about it.

I think we all know that a politician is going to try and be as bland and nonspecific as he/she can It’s the nature of the beast and often is expertly exemplified in RINOs. For Democrats? Well they just lie.

There are rare exceptions to this weasel wording, though. There have been politicians who dared step outside that appeasement of victim and special interests and actually said what was in their hearts. I think Ronald Reagan was one.

He wasn’t afraid to say what he thought. He knew (personally) both sides of that political coin for sure, but more importantly he had the truth of his convictions and that was what resonated with so many - curiously the same quality why liberals and Democrats loathe him so.


24 posted on 04/20/2015 6:35:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: odawg

““I’m pro-immigrant” is the flip side of “I’m not racist” in the mindless programming of the American mentality. I watched the Republican candidates debate last time, and they were all terrified that someone would think they were against wholesale immigration, parroting the idiocy about “we are an immigrant nation”. With millions of Americans out of work, you would think that at least ONE candidate would stand up and remind the nation that each immigrant requires a job or taxpayer money which means that an American has to give up a job (since jobs are scarce) or his money.”

Exactly right. Jeff Sessions appears to be the only one who is willing to state the obvious. The jobs Big Business cannot oursource to another country they try to insource—importing teeming millions of third-worlders (who will work for lower wages) to replace American workers.


25 posted on 04/20/2015 6:47:24 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Marco Rubio and Grover Norquist are quislings who work for The Cheap Labor Express. Many of our elected representatives are also on the payroll. There are only a few that actually represent the citizens.
Both parties are committed to abandoning the rule of law and eliminating American sovereignty.
Watch all of them very carefully.


26 posted on 04/20/2015 7:05:30 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SharpRightTurn

They like to confuse the illegal alien invasion with immigration when it is acually cheap labor importation. They are importing the workers for the jobs that can’t be exported.
Multi-national corporations have no loyalty to this country by definition.


27 posted on 04/20/2015 7:09:40 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Never forget that Grover Norquist is a power broker for Islam in Washington D.C. His purpose for the past few years has been to infiltrate the governement with Muslim Brotherhood operatives to subvert our response to the war Islam is making on us.

Grover Norquist is a traitor. Do not give creedance to anything he says.


28 posted on 04/20/2015 7:14:50 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: manc
Why is immigration so hard to understand?

Everything politically is hard for the American people to understand.

29 posted on 04/20/2015 7:21:20 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

You are right, but the American people cannot understand what you say.


30 posted on 04/20/2015 7:22:01 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: odawg
You would think that at least ONE candidate would stand up and remind the nation that each immigrant requires a job or taxpayer money which means that an American has to give up a job (since jobs are scarce) or his money.

The American people, as uninformed as they are,. might actually understand what you say here. But who will tell them?

31 posted on 04/20/2015 7:23:43 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

[ GOP heavyweights like Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and power broker Grover Norquist are backing an effort to inform conservatives about the history of groups like the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), NumbersUSA and the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS). ]

Norquist and Rubio are bunch of quislings who want to replace informed American voters with “new citizens” that benefit the chamber of cronies.


32 posted on 04/20/2015 8:09:06 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: BlackAdderess

[ Jihad Grover, of all people, is shooting for guilt by association, seriously?! ]

Grover is a damned messed up piece of work. He has his nose so far up the Muslim Brother Hood’s Burqua he is able to tell what brand of hummus they ate yesterday.


33 posted on 04/20/2015 8:16:54 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

[ Grover Norquist is a traitor. Do not give creedance to anything he says. ]

He is either a traitor because he either believes in Islam or he is paid off by the MB. EITHER way he is as dangerous as HELL.


34 posted on 04/20/2015 8:18:41 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Most of the GOP establishment favors some form of amnesty for illegals under a sugar-coated name, and only pays lip service to any restrictions on future illegal immigration (knowing full well that granting amnesty to those already here will motivate even more to scuttle across the border).

However, Marco Rubio stands out as one of the most odious of the GOP Senate's pro-amnesty bunch. Most of the rest go along with it, he makes the issue the centerpiece of his political career. He used to badger his colleagues into voting for amnesty by saying, effectively, that if the GOP doesn't pass an amnesty bill, then Obama will do it by executive order. And the effective difference in outcome between these two scenarios is ...???

35 posted on 04/20/2015 8:40:35 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: odawg
With millions of Americans out of work, you would think that at least ONE candidate would stand up and remind the nation that each immigrant requires a job or taxpayer money which means that an American has to give up a job (since jobs are scarce) or his money.

Furthermore, unemployment and underemployment is highest among unskilled and semi-skilled workers, who do precisely the types of jobs that the illegals do. It also gives the lie to the mantra that "illegals do the jobs Americans won't do," when there are millions who are trying to get those jobs. What it really means is that Americans won't do these jobs for Third World wages.

There's also the fact that our emergency rooms are clogged with illegals who use the ER as all-purpose free clinics, and expense that gets passed on to the rest of us via healthcare providers and insurers.

It's hilarious to hear liberal Democrats go around pretending to be "friends of the worker" and "friends of the poor" when they (and their pro-cheap labor GOP collaborators) want to flood the country with illegal immigrants. Evidently, accelerating America's changing ethnic and cultural demographic trumps being a "friend of the working man" for Democrats, just as cheap labor trumps conserving our identity as a nation for establishment Republicans.

36 posted on 04/20/2015 8:46:22 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Theodore R.

You think that is because the public keep hearing lies from the left and their sorrowful stories? I do

All we have to do is enforce immigration laws and close that damn border.


37 posted on 04/20/2015 8:56:32 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DesertRhino

They broke up their own families by coming here or sending their kids here.
The problem is that our side can’t articulate that except maybe Cruz.


38 posted on 04/20/2015 8:58:15 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Entirely correct, and people like Rubio, Bush want to reveal to the voters how much their hearts aches, how much anguish they undergo, for the downtrodden, as long as the downtrodden are not American downtrodden. When George W Bush was president, about the only time I ever saw him animated was when he was talking about immigration.


39 posted on 04/20/2015 9:17:53 AM PDT by odawg
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To: GraceG

Lol!


40 posted on 04/20/2015 9:30:47 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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