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The Rough Math Facing Ted Cruz
San Diego Union-Triune ^ | April 2, 2015 | George Will

Posted on 04/02/2015 9:28:25 AM PDT by Fiji Hill

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was born in 1970, six years after events refuted a theory on which he is wagering his candidacy. The 1964 theory was that many millions of conservatives abstained from voting because the GOP did not nominate sufficiently deep-dyed conservatives. So if in 1964 the party would choose someone like Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater, hitherto dormant conservatives would join the electorate in numbers sufficient for victory.

This theory was slain by a fact — actually, 15,951,378 facts. That was the difference between the 43,129,566 votes President Lyndon Johnson received and the 27,178,188 that Goldwater got in winning six states.

The sensible reason for nominating Goldwater was not because he could win: As Goldwater understood, Americans still recovering from the Kennedy assassination were not going to have a third president in 14 months. The realistic reason was to turn the GOP into a conservative weapon for a future assault on the ramparts of power...

Today, however, there is no need to nominate Cruz in order to make the GOP conservative.... When Jeb Bush, the most conservative governor of a large state since Ronald Reagan...is called a threat to conservatism, Republicans are with Alice in Wonderland.

(Excerpt) Read more at utsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; cruz; floriduh; georgewill; georgewill4dnc; georgewill4libs; gope; jebbush; rinogeorgewill; rinos4bush
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1 posted on 04/02/2015 9:28:25 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

did they use Common Core math methods?


2 posted on 04/02/2015 9:30:01 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

No. Just trying to pick our candidate again. Last place I am going to look for advice is a rag in California.


3 posted on 04/02/2015 9:31:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Fiji Hill

For someone who “doesn’t have a chance of becoming president”, the media have have sure wasted a truckload of printer ink on the hundreds of articles describing how Ted “doesn’t have a chance of becoming president”.


4 posted on 04/02/2015 9:31:37 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Fiji Hill

“Today, however, there is no need to nominate Cruz in order to make the GOP conservative.... When Jeb Bush, the most conservative governor of a large state since Ronald Reagan...is called a threat to conservatism, Republicans are with Alice in Wonderland.”

I have always despised Will, who sold his soul to the devil for big money at ABC, and elsewhere a quarter century ago.


5 posted on 04/02/2015 9:31:52 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Gaffer

bump


6 posted on 04/02/2015 9:32:42 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Fiji Hill

How’s this for rough math?

If its Jeb, I’m out.


7 posted on 04/02/2015 9:33:09 AM PDT by marron
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To: Fiji Hill

The left once again “advising” Conservatives.

The elections of 2008 and 2012 taught the exact opposite lesson — running squishy middle is a formula for LOSING!

Also, I was in Texas when Cruz had NO chance of winning the Senate seat and in Wisconsin when Walker had NO chance of being re-elected.


8 posted on 04/02/2015 9:34:01 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (A proud 3 percenter! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3270985/posts)
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To: Fiji Hill
When Jeb Bush, the most conservative governor of a large state since Ronald Reagan...is called a threat to conservatism, Republicans are with Alice in Wonderland.

George Will wouldn't know a conservative if one walked up and slapped him upside the head with a copy of the Constitution of the United States.

9 posted on 04/02/2015 9:34:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Fiji Hill
Wonder why the genius who wrote this article did not share his wisdom on the rough math involved in the 1980 and 1984 elections—you know, the ones where Reagan, running on an unapologetic conservative platform like Goldwater's, blew Carter and Mondale out, respectively?
10 posted on 04/02/2015 9:35:51 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Will people want 8 more years of Clinton and their shenanigans? An unwillingness to hold their noses and vote for Hillary could well tip the independents to Cruz. He should have the base well in hand.
11 posted on 04/02/2015 9:36:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Fiji Hill

They touch on the important math but don’t understand that it’s important. No GOP nominee was going to win in ‘64, so really who it and what they’re positions were mean nothing. Similarly it’s highly unlikely that any Dem nominee will win next year, 8 years of a not popular and not effective dem president has poisoned their well (much like how no GOP nominee was going to in in ‘08). Might as well run a conservative.


12 posted on 04/02/2015 9:36:28 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Lost me years ago but, when I read Jeb is the most conservative. ...well, George, you are a blathering idiot.

I can think of 5 governor’s who actualky are conservative.

Moreover, Jeb has ststed time and again, like Romney, be is not conservative and just to put a pretty bow on it has stated he wants to be his own person and succeed in being nominated without the conservative voter.

Cuz he knows everyone voted party on the 1st Tuesday in November.


13 posted on 04/02/2015 9:36:38 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Fiji Hill

Neither Goldwater nor Johnson will be on the ballot. A comparison of the number of votes they received a half-century ago to the potential votes in 2016 are irrelevant. Neither 2016 nominee will be a Goldwater or Johnson.

What is relevant is who the Parties nominate in 2016 and the issues those nominees run on. Dozens of different scenarios can be speculated on, depending on who the two major participants will be.


14 posted on 04/02/2015 9:37:36 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SharpRightTurn

Because George Will is so old and out of touch he has to write from what his failing memory can dredge up.


15 posted on 04/02/2015 9:37:56 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Fiji Hill

He thinks like GOPe, that politics is about marketing and positioning.

It doesn’t occur to him that it ought to be about principle, and persuasion, and rallying people to stand for what they believe they stand for, and showing people the way forward.


16 posted on 04/02/2015 9:38:57 AM PDT by marron
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To: Fiji Hill

Yeah, whatever, George. Thanks for the calculus lesson.


17 posted on 04/02/2015 9:39:39 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Somebody needs to remind George that we’re approaching Opening Day for baseball so he really ought to set his mind to thinking about the only column he regularly writes where the rest of us can expect him to make sense. This drivel makes me think he tightened his bow-tie a little much.


18 posted on 04/02/2015 9:40:27 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Wow, George Will sounds like any other liberal columnist now


19 posted on 04/02/2015 9:40:41 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Fiji Hill

“When Jeb Bush, the most conservative governor of a large state since Ronald Reagan.”

George, If you truly believe this, then why did Jeb meet with Mcconnel to figure out how to win WITHOUT the conservative base? Why does he attack the conservative base, rather than court us?

The answer is that he IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE and does not believe in conservative ideals or conservatism.


20 posted on 04/02/2015 9:42:05 AM PDT by CSM
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