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Wisconsin and Minnesota: A One-Sided Political Competition
MSNBC ^ | 05 March 2015 | Steve Benen

Posted on 03/12/2015 10:44:29 AM PDT by Space Moose

Wisconsin and Minnesota have long made fascinating bookends. As longtime readers may recall, the two neighboring states have similar sizes, similar populations, similar demographics, and even similar climates. But they don’t necessarily have similar politics, at least not lately.

In the 2010 elections, the Badger State elected Scott Walker (R) governor and gave control of the legislature to Republicans, while the Gopher State made Mark Dayton (D) governor and, in 2012, elected a Democratic legislature*. The former got to work targeting collective bargaining and approving tax cuts, while the latter raised taxes on the wealthy and boosted in-state investments.

Nearly five years later, one of these two states is doing quite well. Policy.mic had an interesting report this week.

Since 2011, Minnesota has been doing quite well for itself. The state has created more than 170,000 jobs, according to the Huffington Post. Its unemployment rate stands at 3.6% – the fifth-lowest in the country, and far below the nationwide rate of 5.7% – and the state government boasts a budget surplus of $1 billion. Forbes considers Minnesota one of the top 10 in the country for business.

As Patrick Caldwell recently explained very well, Minnesota’s gains come on the heels of tax increases on Minnesota’s top 2% and higher corporate taxes, both of which state Republicans said would crush Minnesota’s economy. As for their neighbors to the east:

By a number of measures, Wisconsin hasn’t fared as well as Minnesota. As the Milwaukee Sentinel Journal reports, Wisconsin’s job growth has been among the worst in the region, and income growth is one of the worst in the country. It has a higher unemployment rate than Minnesota. And the budget is in bad shape.

..... As we enter the new year, Minnesota is clearly winning by a long shot.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016election; demagogicparty; election2016; huffingtonpost; markdayton; memebuilding; minnesota; msnbarackobama; msnbc; msnbo; obama; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; pmsnbc; scottwalker; stevebenen; wisconsin
I sure would appreciate if folks here could help me refute/rebut this piece. A smug liberal relative sent this and said, "care to comment?"

Yes, yes I would. Please help.

1 posted on 03/12/2015 10:44:29 AM PDT by Space Moose
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To: Space Moose

Wisconsin has/had much more Heavy Industry, something that has been pretty much destroyed in the last 40 years (and especially the last 6) by Liberal/Democrat economic policies.

Minnesota has a large Air Hub, with a moderate number of flights to Europe and Asia. Corp HQ’s are going to go to a hub city, out of convenience.


2 posted on 03/12/2015 10:49:08 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Space Moose; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ..

This was swilled out on MSNBC, and was...

> according to the Huffington Post.

IOW, it’s complete and utter nonsense.


3 posted on 03/12/2015 10:49:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Space Moose
Minnesota's current governor, Mark Dayton, assumed office in 2011.

How much of Minnesota's current prosperity came from the prior 8 years of Republican Tim Pawlenty? (Hey, if the Dems can cry "Bush's fault" for years ...)

4 posted on 03/12/2015 10:54:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Space Moose

Compare WI with Michigan.


5 posted on 03/12/2015 10:55:02 AM PDT by kik5150
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To: Space Moose

Notice my tag line. It’s MSDNC!


6 posted on 03/12/2015 10:58:06 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: Space Moose

Hey Space, I don’t believe this article. I think it is a lie.

Scott Walker is using Reaganomics in Wis and it is working great.


7 posted on 03/12/2015 11:09:54 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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Here is a comparison that PMSNBC won’t mention. Wisconsin is one of only 2 states with a fully funded public employees pension system. Minnesota’s pension underfunding is over $16 billion- up 4 billion since 2010

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2011/03/24/States-Short-Change-Pension-Funds

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/01/20/state-pension-funds-underfunded-by-over-16b/


8 posted on 03/12/2015 11:17:46 AM PDT by mgpilot
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To: PapaBear3625

Yeah. WI had Doyle while MN had Pawlenty.


9 posted on 03/12/2015 11:22:26 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Space Moose; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Space Moose would like help refuting this article.

FReep Mail me if you on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


10 posted on 03/12/2015 11:24:16 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Space Moose

Hopefully this article will give you some good talking points against your cousin.

http://fee.org/blog/detail/minnesota-mythbusting


11 posted on 03/12/2015 11:30:31 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thank you to all!!! You are awesome. Thanks again!


12 posted on 03/12/2015 12:05:32 PM PDT by Space Moose
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To: Space Moose

I would not want to live in Minnesota. Look at the taxes the clowns have imposed on estates .

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323639704579013040148683248

When we look at figures please let’s use the WSJ. Hell, Obama and his pals all lie.


13 posted on 03/12/2015 12:53:46 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Space Moose

Biased, economically illiterate trash.


14 posted on 03/12/2015 1:27:14 PM PDT by darkangel82
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Thank you to all.


15 posted on 03/12/2015 3:20:01 PM PDT by Space Moose
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To: Space Moose

A more valid comparison would be Minnesota vs. the Dakotas and Wisconsin vs. Illinois.


16 posted on 03/12/2015 4:33:23 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Space Moose
Wisconsin and Minnesota: A One-Sided Political Competition

In football too. Bucky and The Pack have been whipping the Gophers and Vking's asses for years.

17 posted on 03/12/2015 4:36:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Space Moose

It’s the Barack Obama channel... What do you expect them to say?


18 posted on 03/12/2015 6:39:13 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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